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Thread: 2.25 petrol - an annoying miss

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    To get the right plugs, check the compression ratio - later cylinder heads had a square boss cast on top of the head between the carburetter and the rocker cover. If this boss has an "8" stamped on it, it is 8:1, if it has a "7", is unmarked, or it is an early head with no boss, the ratio is 7:1. (Unless it has been reground after manufacture!)

    It is most likely 7:1 if sold new in Australia. (But either the head or the engine may not be original!)

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    Buy good quality plugs such as NGK - Champion is rubbish.

    Having used the Iridium plugs on my Disco, I now fit them to everything, despite the extra cost, because they will last for a very long time and out-perform the copper-cored ones,

    Cheers Charlie

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    The plugs have been replaced with some (gapped) NGK iridium ones.. Yet the miss is still there. It may have been smooth for the first little while, but I am not sure. I have played with the dizzy timing to lessen the miss as much as possible, but will rip out the timing light tonight to see if I am in the right ball park.

    Here are the plugs that came out, the two middle are quite blackened and pretty bad considering they were not very old at all. Is this a sign of running rich?



    When it does miss, putting your hand over the exhaust gives you little droplets of fuel.

    Can it be something to do with the extractors? Or carby?

    Regarding compression, I always assumed my 2.25 was a 8:1, due to being right at the pointy end of the 2a production. (241 548 80A). CalVIN says this was used for both early 2a motors and early 3.

    But what JDNSW says is making that a little murkier...

    Here is the front-most part of the head,


    The back,


    and the middle.


    The motor has been refurbed during my tenure, so even if it is a 7:1 head, it could be 8:1 anyway. Incorrect plugs wouldn't give it a miss like this though, would it?

    Cheers everyone

    Sam

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    Quote Originally Posted by series3 View Post
    My coil is either a GT40 or GT40r, i cannot remember which at the moment, about 3-4 years old. I'll check later tonight.
    GT40. no R.

    Sam

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    The boss with the CR on it is the extension of the seat for the headbolt in the picture showing the middle of the head.

    The sparkplugs suggest to me two cylinders (which ones?) are fouling due to stuck rings or plugs are too cold. Alternatively, two cylinders too rich, the other two about right - suggesting a manifold leak affecting those cylinders, with the mixture set to compensate for this, resulting in being two rich for the other two, and resulting miss.

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    If the plugs you show are in order, it may also suggest a blown head gasket between nos 2 and 3 cylinders, resulting in incomplete combustion.

    Do a compression test dry and then wet, when the engine is hot.

    If all is good there, investigate the rest of the ignition sytem; be prepared to change the high-tension leads; points; capacitor; possibly the coil; distributor cap and rotor arm. Beware of cheap repro. rotor arms that don't work properly - google the Distributor Doctor.

    Check for manifold leaks as John suggests,

    Cheers Charlie

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