Bolt and screws for SII

**Bigbjorn** · 9th August 2013, 09:28 AM

Originally Posted by gromit

Probably best to buy a thread pitch gauge, that way you can check the threads and determine whether UNF or BSF (or W or UNC etc.)
https://www.machineryhouse.com.au/Q610

Most important where they thread into something (engine, axle etc.) if its a just bolt & nut then UNF is easily sourced (might upset the purists though.....).
Most bolt places will source BSF but they may want you to buy in bulk, they might struggle with HT bolts.

Thread pitches are here British Tools & Fasteners - BSF Thread Profile

Not sure about the freight costs but I used to buy from these guys when I lived in the UK Namrick - The Nut & Bolt Store

Colin

Most people who work in bolt shops were not born when BSF & BSC (cycle thread) were last in common use. Often they will look at you blankly when asked. Bruce Gardner, B.S.F. Bolts, 0408 056 255, is the best source in Australia for BSW, BSF, BSC, BA nuts and bolts as well as currently used systems. He is also the best for BA taps and dies including the very rare left hand ones. (Better and cheaper than that un-named South Australian lot).

It has become very difficult, if not near impossible to source high grade hardware ( equivalent SAE grades 5 & 8) in British threads in recent years. You can nearly guarantee that anyone with stocks of these has very old stock. BSW socket head cap screws disappeared from the Unbrako catalogue at least 10 years ago.

My business, Brian's Retirement Sale, does not handle nuts and bolts, but my speciality is rare, obsolete, hard to find, and "no longer available" taps and dies. I have BSW, BSF, BSC, CEI Coarse, BSP, NP, UNC, UNF, UNEF, UNS, UN 24 pitch, Metric. My stock is intended for machine shop use so all taps and dies are in high speed steel, not cheap tools in carbon or chrome tungsten steels. I stock screw pitch gauges in BS, UN, Metric. If you wish, send me your e-mail address and I will send you thread charts.

**SII Josh** · 9th August 2013, 09:45 AM

Hi Brian,

I believe i fit into that category of not being born. I even have a blank face when looking at the bolts i pull out, hence why i am getting the details of the bolts/screws i pull out so i can learn.

e-mail is sujos1098@hotmail.com

just beware it may result in more questions

**Bigbjorn** · 9th August 2013, 10:13 AM

Originally Posted by SII Josh

Hi Brian,

I believe i fit into that category of not being born. I even have a blank face when looking at the bolts i pull out, hence why i am getting the details of the bolts/screws i pull out so i can learn.

e-mail is sujos1098@hotmail.com

just beware it may result in more questions

Just tried to send the stuff. Either Yahoo doesn't like Hotmail or HM doesn't like Yahoo. Message rejected- part of the requested network is on our block list. Contact your ISP.

Got another e-mail address?

Brian

Edit- yahoo have replied. I will try again. B

**SII Josh** · 9th August 2013, 12:16 PM

Hi Brian,

I just checked and it came through. Cheers now to start reading up. I will PM you any questions or requests

**Bigbjorn** · 9th August 2013, 01:27 PM

Originally Posted by SII Josh

Hi Brian,

I just checked and it came through. Cheers now to start reading up. I will PM you any questions or requests

Anyone else wants thread charts, send me your e-mail address.

Brian

**landrover dave** · 9th August 2013, 04:29 PM

Series 2's used mainly UNF on the body, BSF on the shackles and BSW on mechanicals! Be very careful of buying parts off Four Wheel Drives as their quality is very suspect. I would be giving Sean at RoverParts a call, OEM quality parts only.

**gromit** · 9th August 2013, 05:15 PM

Originally Posted by landrover dave

Be very careful of buying parts off Four Wheel Drives as their quality is very suspect. I would be giving Sean at RoverParts a call, OEM quality parts only.

'OEM quality parts' doesn't really mean much.

I buy most of my parts from 4 Wheel drives and haven't had any issues.
They still have a lot of ex army parts from auctions years ago and a good stock of secondhand parts.
They supply Bearmach & *itpart like most other Land Rover suppliers so identical products (they even supply parts to other LR suppliers). Some rubber items don't last but you can buy exactly the same parts from others.

I do have the luxury of being able to visit so I can check the quality before purchase.
My only connection with them is as a satisfied customer.

Colin

**gromit** · 9th August 2013, 05:27 PM

Originally Posted by Brian Hjelm

Most people who work in bolt shops were not born when BSF & BSC (cycle thread) were last in common use. Often they will look at you blankly when asked. Bruce Gardner, B.S.F. Bolts, 0408 056 255, is the best source in Australia for BSW, BSF, BSC, BA nuts and bolts as well as currently used systems. He is also the best for BA taps and dies including the very rare left hand ones. (Better and cheaper than that un-named South Australian lot).

A young fella at my local bolt shop gave me a list of BSF bolts and also cap heads, as mentioned the only problem was they didn't want to hold stock so you needed to buy the boxed quantity.
Namrick carry BSCy nuts but the cost of shipping nuts & bolts may be prohibitive.
These guys used to carry a good range of taps & dies including BSCy, BA (no LH) TAPS AND DIES

Getting harder to get this sort of stuff, one of my next projects is to set up a zinc plating bath to renovate bolts & nuts. A colleague has done it at minimal cost and is getting excellent results.

Colin

**Bigbjorn** · 9th August 2013, 05:41 PM

Originally Posted by gromit

A young fella at my local bolt shop gave me a list of BSF bolts and also cap heads, as mentioned the only problem was they didn't want to hold stock so you needed to buy the boxed quantity.
Namrick carry BSCy nuts but the cost of shipping nuts & bolts may be prohibitive.
These guys used to carry a good range of taps & dies including BSCy, BA (no LH) TAPS AND DIES

Getting harder to get this sort of stuff, one of my next projects is to set up a zinc plating bath to renovate bolts & nuts. A colleague has done it at minimal cost and is getting excellent results.

Colin

Box lots of 100-500 from an industrial supplier are often cheaper than a bubble pack of 6 or 10 from a retail shop. You can sell the surplus at swap meets or welfare cheat (flea) markets.

**chazza** · 9th August 2013, 06:36 PM

Originally Posted by landrover dave

Series 2's used mainly ... BSW on mechanicals!

BSW on the female threads in the castings but BSF on the fasteners; such as nuts and the exposed ends of studs,

Cheers Charlie

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