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    A bit of info required on this SIIa

    So I have owned a Disco S1, Series III 109 (with a landy 6 in it) and now I am of helping to get this SIIa to run, just for farm use for now. Will be a long term job, we have plenty of other things to do around the farm, but I love my landy's so want to get it running.

    Just after, what engine this is and any other info would be handy on working out if it will start and the best procedure for doing this!

    It has been sitting idle for 10-15years, but looks like it still has oil in the engine.

    Sorry don't have many more photos yet, forgot to take some, but it is a single cab.

    Matt.
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    That is the 2.25Lt original Land Rover petrol engine.

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    Old Landy motors tend to start even after years idle.

    Smell the odour of the fuel. You should probably drain the tank, discard the fuel and flush the fuel line with fresh fuel. There is a manual primer at the bottom of the mechanical fuel pump. Disconnect the fuel line at the carburettor and pump out the old fuel till fresh fuel flows to the carby and then re-connect the line and fill the carby.

    I would remove the spark plugs and put a few drops of oil or spray penetrene/WD40 into each cylinder. With the crank handle turn the engine over a few times to make sure it turns freely.

    Re-install the spark plugs and leads.

    Fit a battery, turn on ignition and hit the starter switch.

    If it doesn't start immediately, give it a small cap full of petrol down the carby throat (or Aerostart) and try again.

    Sometimes holding your hand over the carby throat as a choke will draw fuel through and as soon as it seems like it's trying to kick over take your hand away.

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    Thx for the replies, will have a go over Easter break hopefully!

    Because it's 2-hrs from home I'll get most of the stuff together before hand.

    The radiator is empty and dry, so will need to flush it first, guessing might need new hoses, but really want to see if it starts, forgot to chk to see if it had the starting handle. Watch leads me to some more questions...

    1. Fuel, unleaded work I assume, do they need additives?
    2. The wiring looks pretty bad, any easy ways to start these landies from the battery!
    3. Oil, litres? Type?
    4. Oil filter? (Guessing someone has a manual that has all this that they can send me matthew (at) bordignons.net)
    5. The starting handle behind the seats, same as the series III.?
    6. Spark plugs type?


    Matt.

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    Hi Matt

    With the age of the engine there is still a chance that there are latex diaphragms in the fuel system, so premium/ultra rather than unleaded which can still contain ethanol.

    To start and run the engine for a few or a dozen seconds can be done without worrying too much about the cooling system and so long as there is oil up to the mark on the dip stick don't worry about changing that either.

    Once the engine does start and runs for up to about 30 seconds or so, you can spend the time and money on changing oil and fixing the cooling system. You will likely find that the hydraulic system on the clutch needs work too, but the aim of the game is to see if the engine runs.

    The crank handle from any Land Rover up to stage 1 will work. It could be an idea to borrow one to take up with you.

    You can supply power from the +ve on battery directly to the coil which cuts out the vehicle wiring. However if the vehicle has cable wipers, you need to be able to use the ignition circuit of the wiring harness to activate the solenoid switch. (early SII SIIA with Solex carbs and 2 individual wiper motors on the screens, usually have a mechanical push button solenoid)

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    cool, thanks for the ideas. Will try what 'Lotz-A-Landies' suggested first.

    the fuel tank, does it have a drain plug normally?

    also from the serial nos post above, what year would it be? from what I have looked up, it is a knock-down kit assembled in Aus.

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    Hi Matt

    Yes the vehicle is a SIIA CKD assembled (from local and imported products) in the Pressed Metals Corporation factory at Enfield NSW.

    It's likely assemply date would be February to March 1964. I can't quite make out the sixth digit which I have assumed is a "9" however I don't have a record of the 243059teens the suffix will be "B" (although 24305017B is in the records).

    Yes there is a drain plug in the fuel tank. You can also set up a siphon feed from a small can directly to the fuel line fitting on the carby, so long as the can is held above the height of the carby.

    BTW: that vehicle should have the mechanical push button solenoid, so you can hot wire the coil direct from the battery.

    Diana

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    pdf Land Rover Manuals | Landroverweb.com

    good for manuals...for everything from sIII onwards (incl 101s)

    some series 1 stuff down low... will add link to s 2 manual shortly
    (REMLR 235/MVCA 9) 80" -'49.(RUST), -'50 & '52. (53-parts) 88" -57 s1, -'63 -s2a -GS x 2-"Horrie"-112-769, "Vet"-112-429(-Vietnam-PRE 1ATF '65) ('66, s2a-as UN CIVPOL), Hans '73- s3 109" '56 s1 x2 77- s3 van (gone)& '12- 110

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    Email sent with following attachments for Land rover series II, IIA
    workshop2_engine.pdf and workshop3_engine_and_fuel.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies View Post
    Hi Matt

    Yes the vehicle is a SIIA CKD assembled (from local and imported products) in the Pressed Metals Corporation factory at Enfield NSW.

    It's likely assemply date would be February to March 1964. I can't quite make out the sixth digit which I have assumed is a "9" however I don't have a record of the 243059teens the suffix will be "B" (although 24305017B is in the records).

    Yes there is a drain plug in the fuel tank. You can also set up a siphon feed from a small can directly to the fuel line fitting on the carby, so long as the can is held above the height of the carby.

    BTW: that vehicle should have the mechanical push button solenoid, so you can hot wire the coil direct from the battery.

    Diana
    Correct, it's a '9'

    24305917B


    Thx for that info.

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