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    Tool selection for late Series IIa

    What with Supercheap Auto having a huge sale, me deciding to proceed with purchase of a late Series IIa and my landy-equipped tool box having disappeared into the night WITH my Ser III landy back in 1984 never to be seen again, I need to start getting together a suitable set of tools. I have a lot of stuff already which is not make-dependent but I recall with horror the mix of AF, Whitworth, and others I can't now recall, on my first landy (which was a IIa).

    First question though is 3/8th or 1/2 inch drive?

    Second question is range of sizes and standards? I have a dim recollection there is a 1 1/16th socket needed somewhere.

    All input from old spanner hands gratefully received.

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    The choice of drive size will depend a bit on your vehicle - i.e. how many rusty bolts you expect to need to twist off. 3/8" is easier for the small body bolts, but for some of the mechanicals you are probably better off using 1/2", including things such as head bolts, tie rod ends, shackle bolts, which probably need a torque wrench with 1/2" drive. I have both, but if keeping it to one, you probably should go 1/2".

    Most of the hexagons on the vehicle should be AF, and I can't think of of anything smaller than 7/16 or larger than 1" (what size are the nuts on the end of the axle - they may be 1 1/16"?) except for the wheel bearing nuts, which are 2 1/16".

    There are still a significant number of Whitworth/BSF hexagons including wheel nuts, drive flange bolts, and a varying number of others, depending on the age of some of the parts; don't forget that in the last 44years it may well have parts fitted that have been taken from Landrovers back to 1948! Sizes from 1/4"BSF/5/16W to about 9/16"BSF/5/8"W

    There are a few hexagons that are BA sizes, one that comes to mind is the lock screw on the Zenith choke lever, but there are others.

    There should not be any metric sizes, but it will almost certainly have some - for example, most tierod ends sold today have metric nuts on them, and any number of body bolts may have been replaced with metric ones.

    I find that I mostly use sockets and a set of AF ratchet ring spanners.

    Hope this helps,

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    Quote Originally Posted by damiane View Post
    What with Supercheap Auto having a huge sale, me deciding to proceed with purchase of a late Series IIa and my landy-equipped tool box having disappeared into the night WITH my Ser III landy back in 1984 never to be seen again, I need to start getting together a suitable set of tools. I have a lot of stuff already which is not make-dependent but I recall with horror the mix of AF, Whitworth, and others I can't now recall, on my first landy (which was a IIa).

    First question though is 3/8th or 1/2 inch drive?

    Second question is range of sizes and standards? I have a dim recollection there is a 1 1/16th socket needed somewhere.

    All input from old spanner hands gratefully received.

    damian
    hi damiam toowamba swop is where to go mate
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    Quote Originally Posted by russellrovers View Post
    hi damiam toowamba swop is where to go mate
    Toowamba? Isn't that in Qld? Love to go there but seems a bit far just for some tools.

    cheers mate

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    1 1/16" is the wheel nut size but try for a 6-sided socket for this.

    Don't forget that trash & treasure markets can also throw up some suitable spanners & sockets. The Whitworth sizes will have to come from there or a Swap Meet because I don't think the staff at SuperCheap (why that name when they are not 'super' or 'cheap') will know what you are talking about......


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    As Colin says. Go to Wantirna Market tomorrow and look through the collections of tools being sold "out of Dad's shed".

    Similar markets, Op shops etc are a good source of Whitworth tools, often very good quality and very cheap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDNSW View Post
    As Colin says. Go to Wantirna Market tomorrow and look through the collections of tools being sold "out of Dad's shed".

    Similar markets, Op shops etc are a good source of Whitworth tools, often very good quality and very cheap.

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    John,
    Wantirna is mostly treasure nowadays, Dandenong is more trash .


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    Thanks John. I had a browse at Bunnings this morning. All mixed metric/AF sets. Sidchrome web site has a straight AF set. I think as a starter I'll go with your advice and get a 1/2 set, with a speed brace and a t/bar maybe. Need a torque wrench I spose and maybe a couple of common use sizes in deep socket style; say 7/16 and 1/2 inch.

    I'll do some more research for those Whitworth sizes you mentioned.

    I seem to recall the axle nut used a tube spanner?

    Have to review my ring/open enders. Again I think almost all my AF were in the Landy. I like the off-set ring + open enders for versatility.

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    Colin,

    you are right there mate. I did some comparisons with same or at least similar socket sets - good brands - between Bunnings and Supercheap. As you say, nether super nor cheap. Cooking lunch for my 93 year old dad tomorrow so I'll have to put off the next swap meet till after that.

    thanks

    damian

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    Trash or Treasure?

    Quote Originally Posted by gromit View Post
    John,
    Wantirna is mostly treasure nowadays, Dandenong is more trash .


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    So are Whitworth sizes "treasure", or "trash"? Or are they both depending on the eye of the beholder?

    See the deep philosophical issues that people don't get to appreciate if they are not members of this forum.

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