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Thread: SWB - Petrol tank installation - pattern - plans - method

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    Four Wheel Drives used to get them made, now they've changed ownership you'd have to check price & availability. They even got Series I tanks made but you had to supply a good filler neck to fit into it (too hard/expensive to make).

    Catalogue shows them at $467.50 (16gal) but I'm sure it's risen since 2006.

    Any sheet metal place could quote but you'd need one to copy........

    Paddocks have always operated the way you mention, you pay, they pack it and then quote freight. Problem is if they give a rough price someone will complain if the cost is different when they go to send it......can't win.




    Colin
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    Quote Originally Posted by gromit View Post
    They even got Series I tanks made but you had to supply a good filler neck to fit into it (too hard/expensive to make).
    What? How hard is it to make a tube with a mesh at the bottom and a cap at the top? If they can't make a filler, you'd have to wonder if they can make a ruddy tank at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crackers View Post
    What? How hard is it to make a tube with a mesh at the bottom and a cap at the top? If they can't make a filler, you'd have to wonder if they can make a ruddy tank at all.
    The filler neck, not the extended filler tube that fits into it. You'd either have to make press tooling up or possibly it could be spun but again you'd need tooling. Then there are the 7 pins that need to be cut & brazed into position.
    Even the filler tube would need tooling made.

    Cutting & welding up flat sheets is simple in comparison......

    Colin
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    '81 SIII FFR
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    Quote Originally Posted by gromit View Post
    The filler neck, not the extended filler tube that fits into it. You'd either have to make press tooling up or possibly it could be spun but again you'd need tooling. Then there are the 7 pins that need to be cut & brazed into position.
    Even the filler tube would need tooling made.

    Cutting & welding up flat sheets is simple in comparison......

    Colin
    I'd have to have another look at mine but I still can't see the complexity. Ah well, I'm not having to make the things (just as well by the sound of it)

    Just editing to add that my tank doesn't have a complicated neck sticking out of the tank. The cap is more or less flush with the top of the tank and just extends down into the tank proper with a mesh at the bottom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by damiane View Post
    I understand you would cut the inlet hole further inboard in the floor but what do you do to overcome the added distance from the end of the metal inlet pipe fitting to the top of the tank? Is it just a case of cutting the rubber pipe at the appropriate spot and inserting a length of steel pipe?

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    Damian
    The rubber flexible hose needs to be cut, rotated and joined anyway, as only right hand hoses are available.

    Aaron

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    Quote Originally Posted by gromit View Post
    Four Wheel Drives used to get them made, now they've changed ownership you'd have to check price & availability. They even got Series I tanks made but you had to supply a good filler neck to fit into it (too hard/expensive to make).

    Catalogue shows them at $467.50 (16gal) but I'm sure it's risen since 2006.

    Any sheet metal place could quote but you'd need one to copy........

    Paddocks have always operated the way you mention, you pay, they pack it and then quote freight. Problem is if they give a rough price someone will complain if the cost is different when they go to send it......can't win.

    Colin
    Colin,
    I figured they might be worried so I especially asked for a "rough" quote just to have some idea and I told them why. Very inflexible approach from a service point of view. Still it's their business not mine.

    Cheers

    Damian

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    Quote Originally Posted by gromit View Post
    The filler neck, not the extended filler tube that fits into it. You'd either have to make press tooling up or possibly it could be spun but again you'd need tooling. Then there are the 7 pins that need to be cut & brazed into position.
    Even the filler tube would need tooling made.

    Cutting & welding up flat sheets is simple in comparison......

    Colin
    I made one up for Scallops Series I. I turned it from a solid round bar, quite a bit of work and a lot of wasted material, but it looks the part. We used his existing filler tube and cap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gromit View Post
    The filler neck, not the extended filler tube that fits into it. You'd either have to make press tooling up or possibly it could be spun but again you'd need tooling. Then there are the 7 pins that need to be cut & brazed into position.
    Even the filler tube would need tooling made.

    Cutting & welding up flat sheets is simple in comparison......

    Colin
    Are we talking about PN 330366 "Cowl for fuel filler"?

    Damian

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    Quote Originally Posted by damiane View Post
    Are we talking about PN 330366 "Cowl for fuel filler"?

    Damian
    No, we're talking about the filler neck soldered into a Series I tank......

    Colin
    '56 Series 1 with homemade welder
    '65 Series IIa Dormobile
    '70 SIIa GS
    '76 SIII 88" (Isuzu C240)
    '81 SIII FFR
    '95 Defender Tanami
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    Quote Originally Posted by damiane View Post

    Well talk about PRICE SHOCK!!!!!

    Spoke to FWD Motors in Qld today. Not their fault at all but the manufacturer has put his fuel tank prices waaaaaaaaaaaayyyyy UP. Like $1,200 for the 16 gall and comparable for the 10 gall. FWD agreed with me that at those prices he won't be making many tanks. Certainly not for me. As I am sure everyone would agree, I could buy a whole barn find off fleabay for that money and part it out just for the tank and fittings. So back to the drawing board. The U.K. option is looking - as a friend of mine says - "betterer and betterer" Will have to check freight costs.

    Damian
    That price is ridiculous! I bought their last 2 10 gallon tanks a fortnight ago, (Won't tell you what I paid for them!) and Richard said their tank supplier was going to put the prices up but that is out of all proportion.
    Martin

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