Master
The time had come to fit up my rebuilt 2.25 into my series 66' 2a after I had rescued it from a holden conversion. I was sure I caught it before the cross members were hacked up...turns out i was kinda wrong.
When I went to fit it, it would just not sit on all 4 mounts properly. I was stuffed to why, as anyone would be i suppose. It was hitting on the cross member that ran underneath the flywheel before it would sit on all mounts
by comparing to my other chassis, i discovered that whole cross member was sitting about 1" too high and 15mm further back than it should be! A lot of sweat and welding burns later, its back in its original spot and soon to have the engine back in. But what a pain this was!
Just cannot take any repairs done previously to be done correctly...even the whole, she'll be right attitude has failed
RoverLord
That crossmember is often badly bent as it tends to hit things, and the bend may not be apparent because it is bent to start with. It would have not been a problem with the Holden engine as it was probably set a little higher at the front anyway.
The 15mm too far back is, I suspect, within manufacturing tolerance!
John
John
JDNSW
1986 110 County 3.9 diesel
1970 2a 109 2.25 petrol
Master
There were only 1 or 2 dings on it, not enough to be bent, but if you can make out the top bits of the cross member had been cut off to be flush with the top of the chassis where the original projection should be below the chassis.
RoverLord
Possibly moved when the Holden engine was fitted to give a little more ground clearance, but I don't think that was usual.
John
John
JDNSW
1986 110 County 3.9 diesel
1970 2a 109 2.25 petrol
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i had the same issue with mine
i packed under the engine mounts with cyclone washers..
worked a treat... and still is
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Master
Mine had little room for the engine to move, maybe a cm or two on top and bottomOriginally Posted by incisor
i had the same issue with mine
i packed under the engine mounts with cyclone washers..
worked a treat... and still is
Lord Jock
The first two pics look to be correct, ie the mount on the chassis has not been modified. As JD said, no need for alteration to accept a Holden Motor, if anything the adaptor plate may end up closer to the cross member so more likely a need to raise the motor.
Have you got the adaptor/spacer piece that goes on the other engine mount? It is usually tossed when a Holden engine is fitted. The engine mount bolts up to it and them two 3/8 bolts attach it to the chassis mount.
It would raise the donk about one inch and also rotate it a smidgeon clockwise and give you the clearance you need.
Good luck!
Found a pic of it!
Do you have this on the right front mount?
Cheers, Mick.
1974 S3 88 Holden 186.
1971 S2A 88
1971 S2A 109 6 cyl. tray back.
1964 S2A 88 "Starfire Four" engine!
1972 S3 88 x 2
1959 S2 88 ARN 111-014
1959 S2 88 ARN 111-556
1988 Perentie 110 FFR ARN 48-728 steering now KLR PAS!
REMLR 88
1969 BSA Bantam B175
Master
Yep, I was missing that the first time around and I was all chipper because it was a simply silly solution!
But no...it had to be the difficult one!
Measuring with a straight edge, across the top of the chassis, the cross member was sitting nearly 40mm to high, i had no choice but to cut it out.
Its back in now, i only have a few little welds to clean up and then the engine will go back in and hopefully with it all clearing now
Lord Jock
Wow 40 mm is a fair bit.
Interesting to know why it was modified to that degree!
Just another thing, is that gearbox bolted in situ in pic no. 5, as it looks to be sitting a long way across to the left of vehicle?
On mine the bracket for the clutch master cylinder is a lot closer to right side of the transmission tunnel.
Cheers, Mick.
1974 S3 88 Holden 186.
1971 S2A 88
1971 S2A 109 6 cyl. tray back.
1964 S2A 88 "Starfire Four" engine!
1972 S3 88 x 2
1959 S2 88 ARN 111-014
1959 S2 88 ARN 111-556
1988 Perentie 110 FFR ARN 48-728 steering now KLR PAS!
REMLR 88
1969 BSA Bantam B175
Wizard
Hi Mick,
Only spotted that now myself. Mine is a 2.0 liter petrol, but the bellhousing is a LOT closer to centre on that cross member...
Cheers,
Lou
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