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    Wide body 109

    Hello all,
    Somewhere in suburban Sydney is this interesting late 2a:






    You can see that the rear body is wider than standard, with the front doors angled to make up for the width from the standard firewall.
    I think the roof is a pop-top too.

    It looks like an ambulance, however, it doesn't match the design of any I have seen on the web before, though most are UK Marshalls and so forth that would rarely if ever have come to Aus.

    I haven't yet spoken to the owner or gone looking for a chassis number.

    Any theories on provenance? My fiance reckons it won't fit in my backyard

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    Hello Isuzutoo-eh ,

    I might have found it "Land-Rover Series IIA Ambulance. The Ambulance body is by Herbert Lomas who built ambulance bodies on a variety of vehicles". The quote is from this site Accessed March 28th 2016

    https://www.google.com.au/url'sa=i&r...59225917865522

    Another photograph of the side view - https://www.flickr.com/photos/homer-...son/4439275270

    If you scroll down this site at the bottom there is a photograph of a Lomas Series III ambulance - perhaps the one you looked at is a intermediate model between the earlier 2A? Accessed March 28th 2016 from, Lomas Ambulances

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    What an interesting find.
    Quote Originally Posted by isuzutoo-eh View Post
    My fiance reckons it won't fit in my backyard
    I reckon she's wrong.

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    Lionel, I think you are wrong. The Lomas ambulance has a coachbuilt windscreen, doors and lower side panels.

    This one has standard windscreen, doors and tub sides, although it is entirely possible the concept for it came from the Lomas ambulance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDNSW View Post
    Lionel, I think you are wrong. The Lomas ambulance has a coachbuilt windscreen, doors and lower side panels.

    This one has standard windscreen, doors and tub sides, although it is entirely possible the concept for it came from the Lomas ambulance.

    John

    Hello John,

    Or the other option was a converted "Piglet" from the Irish "Troubles".

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDNSW View Post
    Lionel, I think you are wrong. The Lomas ambulance has a coachbuilt windscreen, doors and lower side panels.

    This one has standard windscreen, doors and tub sides, although it is entirely possible the concept for it came from the Lomas ambulance.

    John

    Hello John,

    The website does not provide a source however if the body is removable - as this photograph indicates - then it could be slipped over a stripped down cab of a Series IIA or a Series III and still maintain the doors. Accessed March 28th 2016 from http://www.lchr.org/a/24/mb/ambulances.html

    The Series 2A Lomas Ambulance Accessed March 28th 2016 from https://www.flickr.com/photos/homer-...57623634576350

    The Series III Lomas uses the standard Land Rover Cab. Accessed March 28th 2016 from Lomas Ambulances

    It may be possible that between the Series 2A in the third photograph and the Series III in the first two photographs that Lomas had a hybrid between the wide body with the angled doors and custom windscreen plus custom doors to a more modular model for the later Series III?

    The last photograph is of a 1964 Land Rover Series 2A that has a similar body to the Series 3 ambulance module. Accessed March 28th 2016 from, 1964 Land Rover Series 2A Lomas-bodied Ambulance JHR527B (22400399642) - Puebla Pictures.com So it looks like Lomas made different versions of ambulance modules and perhaps the one Isuzutoo-eh located was one of them.

    Also throw on a Dormobile camper into the mix.

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    The Lomas examples have a different roof profile, the one I photographed appears to be in two pieces, potentially a pop-top, which none of the Lomas bodies in the photos I saw matched.
    Piglets have a different roof too.


    Heck it may be a doughnut truck or ice-cream van for all I know!

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    Quote Originally Posted by isuzutoo-eh View Post
    The Lomas examples have a different roof profile, the one I photographed appears to be in two pieces, potentially a pop-top, which none of the Lomas bodies in the photos I saw matched.
    Piglets have a different roof too.


    Heck it may be a doughnut truck or ice-cream van for all I know!
    Hello Isuzutoo-eh,

    Well you are in the best position to ask about its history Just out of idle curiosity and without measuring the available space in your yard - that is. I am not sure the "it just followed me home" excuse works more than once!

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    It certainly looks as if the history would be fascinating. Go on, follow it up!

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    Closest I have found, and it's not close enough, is The Grizzly Torque by Pilcher in the UK:
    Robert Bateman’s unearthed vintage Land Rover to be restored | Driving

    I'll endeavour to meet the owner, but I have never seen anyone outside and I go past the house several times a week.

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