Thread: Initial setting dimensions for track rod and ball joints.

Further reading I see a difference of 1" listed under SERIES I, II, IIA, III SPECIFICATION between 88 and 109

I also see a difference of 1" listed between 2 and 3. Here;


Land Rover Series 2 and 2A models and specs



Land Rover Series 3 models and specs

And in Series IIA front axle WMS to WMS width not what I expected, hmm... - Series Forum - LR4x4 - The Land Rover Forum someone made mention of finding a section in the S3 workshop manual stating 109 has 1" wider track.

Anyone noticed this?

The difference in track between Series 2/2a and Series 3 is entirely due to different offset on the wheels - which varied anyway depending on date and place of manufacture.

I don't know of anywhere that lists the length of the track rod, but as far as I know they did not change between 2a and 3, although it is possible that there was a change by changing the angle of the steering arms, which may have happened either with the change to fully threaded TREs (I don't think so), or more likely, the Stage 1 is different. Maybe someone with readily accessible 2a and 3 can make some measurements. I'll see if I can later in the day.

Shouldered /un-shouldered TRE ? Wouldn't the length of the rod be different?
.W.

I don't think so, but come to think of it, I wonder if the issue is the OP has shouldered TREs screwed into a track rod designed for fully threaded TREs - that could certainly lead to not being able to screw the TREs in far enough.

If this is the case, simply changing to fully threaded TREs is the easy fix - they are easier to find anyway!

Gday thanks for the comments guys, I have no idea what is right and wrong here.

So here is my left;
trackleft.jpg

and right;
trackright.jpg

So the story goes the initial Sumobars were 1045 long, but people complained about too much thread was showing on the TRE, so the manufacturer remeasured on a S3 and made the bars 1060 long.

The S3 workshop manual shows 1157 >1160mm between ball joint centers, however my S2a track rod is 1125mm center to center. Is anyone else with a SWB S2a able to confirm?

G'day

My daily driver is a 1966 series 2a SWB with 7.50 x 16 tyres.
Measured track rod ball joint centre to ball joint centre as 1160mm with "arms from the BOTTOM of the swivel housings". (That maybe is where the difference is with your 2a track rod.)

Hope this helps

Chris

Aha! - maybe there is a difference when when they went from steering arms at the top to steering arms at the bottom. And yes, a check of the parts manual shows a different part number for the track rod, so I'm guessing that is it. Unfortunately, I don't have an early one to measure. My 2a with swivel arms on the bottom is 1160 approx.

It is possible to change the swivel arms from top to bottom, but you will need a few new parts.

Hi

Hopefully I will be finishing changing the TREs on my 1960 series 2 this weekend if you would like me to measure.

Also I notice the TRE on the drivers side is has a much bigger cone and thread than the passenger side. The new TREs I am fitting are all the same size so will see how the set up goes. I have damaged the old TRE trying to get it off.

also I kept the set up at the top of the housing rather than change to the bottom (Fingers crises that with John's advice I won't get wheel shimmy).

Cheers
Angus