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    High pitched whine in S2a gearbox

    I have been getting a high pitched intermittent whine in my S2a suffix F gearbox (over and above the normal whines they put out). It comes on like clockwork when I hit ~48 mph, and then again at ~54 mph, for a “few mph”, (i.e. until I pass ~49 or ~55 mph respectively), and it seems to push through it and the noise goes away.

    The gearbox feels otherwise fine, shifts well, drives well, doesn’t pop out of any gears, and there are no other “untoward” noises. It hasn’t been rebuilt in my ownership, but it has been rebuilt in the past.

    Does anyone have any ideas about what it might be? I am hoping these specific symptoms might give an indication. I do have a video of it but I don’t seem to able to post it.

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    I don't know much about these things, but it sounds like some sort of harmonic occurrence.

    Are you running an overdrive with this gearbox? Does it only happen in 4th gear? How are the propshaft and output bearing?

    John

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnno1969 View Post
    I don't know much about these things, but it sounds like some sort of harmonic occurrence.

    Are you running an overdrive with this gearbox? Does it only happen in 4th gear? How are the propshaft and output bearing?

    John
    Hi John, I had a thought along those lines, but not sure what might be source. As you suggest it only happens in 4th. Prop shaft uni’s are new, but I don’t know about the condition of the output bearing.

    Cheers, Matt

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    Have you tried holding your foot against the Hi-Lo lever when it's happening ?
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    I suspect that it is caused by slightly less than perfect mesh of the transfer gears. The most likely cause of this is wear on the intermediate shaft and/or bearings, assuming there is no overdrive fitted. But another possibility is incorrect preload on the output bearings - ensure the nut on the output flange is tight.

    However, it appearing at specific speeds is almost certainly something is resonant at those speeds. one of the likely suspects is the red knob lever having lost its anti-rattle spring on the ball, or the gearlever due to wear on the ball or a loose support. But it could also be a loose body part that is resonant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drfish View Post
    Hi John, I had a thought along those lines, but not sure what might be source. As you suggest it only happens in 4th. Prop shaft uni’s are new, but I don’t know about the condition of the output bearing.

    Cheers, Matt
    Hey Matt,

    Maybe just have a quick squiz at the output bearing. With the gearbox and transfer both disengaged and the handbrake off, grab the handbrake end of the prop and give it a jolly good shake to see if there's much play there. Aside from the various possible causes being suggested here already, maybe also look at anything in the alignment or mounting of the transmission or the possibility that the noise is occurring in another associated component of the car.

    I'm sure that people will keep chipping in with ideas. You'll get there.

    Cheers,

    John

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    Thanks for all the input on this problem guys. I’ll check through the items in these replies next time I drag the old girl out, and report back.

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    High pitched whine in S2a gearbox

    You can get problems with bearings that come and go at certain rpm, used to get it with wheel bearings that were a bit past it.

    Does the whine happen all the time or under load or coast in 4th.

    I did wonder about the synchro on 4th, but think it’s more likely to be a bearing, especially if it’s continuous.

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    OP said intermittent.

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