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    IIA front cover main oil seal - which direction to shove it in?

    Hi all. PXL_20230706_040420269.jpg
    Rebuilding 1964 IIA ex Army engine.Getting ready to fit front cover oil seal after I've fitted head etc and triple checked cam/valve timing

    Someone has already been here and removed the 'mud excluder' shield from the front of the front cover.
    They actually put in tiny screws instead of original rivets but ho hum! no shield..

    So, from which way do I shove in the main oil seal?
    From inside to out or, from outside in?
    The seal has no obvious outer circumference lippage which suggests insertion orientation and the front cover aperture has no chamfering either side.
    I don't want to risk slicing the seal outer skin - it looks like it'll be a real tight fit.

    Also - my largest socket dia is 40mm and not big enough to fit the seal - should I chamfer the aperture and just gently gently tap tap it in?
    cheers
    Neil

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    I would suggest not using a socket but a flat piece of steel or perhaps a good flat piece of wood to gently tap the front seal into the housing from the front. If you have a press that you can use it would possibly do a better job, this is of course if you have not installed the housing to the motor first.
    When installing seals it can be helpful to apply something like Permatex gasket cement to the outer surface to assist in reducing friction and assist with sealing outer surfaces. Also a film of grease on the inner sealing lips to prevent them being burnt at startup, it can take time for the engine to splash oil to the seal at initial start.

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    Thanks for the info. Sounds like a good plan from a peer review
    I'll use the 'from the front' method as you suggest. I see now that doing it from the back restricts the angle of dangle for hammer applications and more chance of stuff ups
    I have some Loctite xxx 'seal retaining compound' I used for the core plugs and will use assembly lube smeared on the inner lip.

    Somewhere in some LR forum I read that you can avoid running the new seal lip in the old groove on the crank pulley shaft by driving the seal in 'just' a bit further in than flush.
    Have you heard of success with this - or at least no disastrous failures?
    cheers.
    N


    Quote Originally Posted by Gippslander View Post
    I would suggest not using a socket but a flat piece of steel or perhaps a good flat piece of wood to gently tap the front seal into the housing from the front. If you have a press that you can use it would possibly do a better job, this is of course if you have not installed the housing to the motor first.
    When installing seals it can be helpful to apply something like Permatex gasket cement to the outer surface to assist in reducing friction and assist with sealing outer surfaces. Also a film of grease on the inner sealing lips to prevent them being burnt at startup, it can take time for the engine to splash oil to the seal at initial start.

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    Hi guys. Fitted the new seal from the front - easy as - but did smooth/file over the slight chamfer on the outside face to help the seal slide in.
    With some tricky measuring using vernier I was able to put the seal into a new spot on the pulley shaft, avoiding the old groove.
    Here's trusting no oil leaks!
    Cheers
    Neil




    Quote Originally Posted by brookvale View Post
    Thanks for the info. Sounds like a good plan from a peer review
    I'll use the 'from the front' method as you suggest. I see now that doing it from the back restricts the angle of dangle for hammer applications and more chance of stuff ups
    I have some Loctite xxx 'seal retaining compound' I used for the core plugs and will use assembly lube smeared on the inner lip.

    Somewhere in some LR forum I read that you can avoid running the new seal lip in the old groove on the crank pulley shaft by driving the seal in 'just' a bit further in than flush.
    Have you heard of success with this - or at least no disastrous failures?
    cheers.
    N

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