Thread: 2L Series IIs

Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies

Dan

The only 2 litre OHV that I'm aware of was the diesel.

Yes the 2 litre diesel was the basis for the design of the 2 1/4 litre petrol and diesels.

But I am pretty sure that there are a few bits for the 2 litre diesel that are hard to get, like the pistons. The 2 litre diesel was used in the series 2 for a couple of years as oposed to the 2 litre IOE petrol which was less than a year.

Diana

The 2 litre diesel and the 2.25 petrol are said to have been developed in tandem, and sharing the same basic design. The 2.25 diesel was an adaptation to use the same block as the petrol engine, as well as rather more parts in common with the petrol engine. The major difference was that the 2 litre had wet sleeves, where the 2.25, as with the petrol, ran the pistons in the block. The change was used as the marker for the change from Series 2 to 2a in 1961, so the 2 litre was in production for around four years.

I would expect that the pistons and sleeves are pretty hard to come by, but most other parts that are different from the 2.25 are interchangeable, at least as assemblies. The injectors and injection pumps for example are different from memory, but are probably interchangeable, and the precombustion chambers are, I think, different, but the whole head assembly is interchangeable.

I have never heard of any suggestion of an overhead valve 2 litre petrol engine, and I would suspect any such reference has either got the capacity wrong, or has incorrectly described the IOE valve layout; which seems to be often incorrectly referred to as "side valve".


John

Originally Posted by chazza

Sorry cobber; didn't mean to tell granma how to suck eggs, but I was referring to your second last sentence and assuming that you hadn't tried the S1 boys and girls.

My S2 probably had a 2 litre engine when it was new, but the army changed it to the 2 1/4 litre, so it will stay that way.

If you want to keep it original, then I think that is a great idea, as they seem to be as rare as hen's teeth,

Cheers Charlie

No worries mate!

I'm still not 100% sure if I will go down that path - I may just put a 2.25 in it. They certainly do seem to be quite rare, but we will see how we go.

The 2.25s I have are both in Perth so I will have to ship them across the country. That done, both are in unconfirmed order (one has been sitting in the backyard of my grandmothers house for as long as anyone can remember, the other we found under a farm house when we bulldozed it!)

It may be simpler to find a more local engine that someone knows a bit about methinks...

Originally Posted by hodgo

Shonky.
I know where there is one here in Brisbane. Its dismantled but spose to be in good condition I have not seen it but according to the owner is complete woud you like me to chase some more info for you.
Hodg

Cheers for the heads up Hodgo!

I'm not quite in the market yet (still hoarding the pennies) but if you could have a preliminary poke around for me that would be good!

Would be good to know how dismantled it is, what it came out of and how it was going before it was pulled - if you are comfortable asking about price, that would be helpful too.

Thanks a ton mate!

Originally Posted by gromit

Shonky,

I bought a '58 Series II a while ago as a spares car, it had a 2.25 fitted but came with the original 2 litre motor as well. The idea was to use the 2 litre motor as a spare for my Series I.
I'm now looking at restoring the SII (at some point in the future) and putting the original motor back in because it is rare to find them with the 2 litre fitted.
The 2 litre was only fitted to the early 88" SII's, as Diana said probably just to use up existing stocks. The long wheelbase was launched with the 2.25 motor.

Series Two Club

Colin

That's always the way I think Colin.

If you decide you want to get rid of the 2.25 afterwards I could be interested.

Good luck with the project - I look forward to reading about it!

Hi, I have a series 2 , 2 litre petrol 88 inch original soft top "with heater" lol !!.
All there not bad nick for fifty years would restore well.
was wondering what it might be worth???
Thanks all.
Chopper

Value depends entirely on its condition and originality. While they are quite rare, I doubt they worth significantly more than any other Series 2 in the same condition unless it has special history. The extra cost of restoration would outweigh the modest extra rarity of the 2 litre.

However, although Series 2s are hardly very collectible at present, they may become so in the next ten years, although the fact that they are hard to distinguish from 2as and even Series 3s plays down their value.

Having said that though, 2 litre Series 2s are quite rare with original engines, so it is likely to be worth retaining originality, but don't expect to be sitting on a fortune!

John

Rare is almost the wrong word isn't it?

Unusual maybe? Uncommon?