Thread: Spring Over Lift

Ahhh Tonestar! Mate, thats a whole new ballgame if you're looking to comp and I don't think that this setup will give you enough for that type of thing. To get more travel and to reposition the axles to suit I'm running LC45 front springs and LC60 rears. The will still swing from the original spring mounts with the exception of the front shackles which need to be repositioned. If you're looking to comp, before shortening the chassis (I've been looking at the same mod) I would look very carefully at some of the Hiux spring modifications where they're getting huge amounts of flex. This will require new leaf spring mounts front and rear and they're much longer and narrower leafs which will give a lot more flex. Most of the hard work has been done already using these. Mainly Hilux rears up front and IFS Hilux rears at the back and then the packs are stripped down and set to flex setup as sprung over. Thats where I would be heading in this case. The Yanks are also onto some really high flex mods using similar principles with US based parts.

I would highly recommend:
www.outerlimits4x4.com
www.pirate4x4.com

Outerlimits is an Aussie hard core site and there are some excellent minds on there. Pirate4x4 is US based and probably the absolute benchmark for hard core tech. They can supply you with tech and experience which is well beyond that which I can.

Thanx Slunnie.........

Unfortunately I have a Budget to stick too,married with children........if you know what I mean, so I can't do hard core comp like I'd like to.I'm going to enter the standard class,which is limited to big lift,big wheels with no Diff Lockers,or it might have to be Modified when the V8 goes in.
And I'll give those sites a look...................

Tonestar.

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I'm investigating putting a set of coil axles under my S2A.

The primary reason is here:

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/showthread...84#post2001584

Would love some tips and tricks. I'll be using a set of Disco1 axles with matching radius, trailing, and A-arms. I'll use the disco coils at this stage. need advice on coil mounts on the S2A chassis and then any brake system issues. Will need some brake proportioning valve I assume.

Originally Posted by jakeslouw

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I'm investigating putting a set of coil axles under my S2A.

The primary reason is here:

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/showthread...84#post2001584

Would love some tips and tricks. I'll be using a set of Disco1 axles with matching radius, trailing, and A-arms. I'll use the disco coils at this stage. need advice on coil mounts on the S2A chassis and then any brake system issues. Will need some brake proportioning valve I assume.

I'd use the spring perches from a Discovery, but make they they come down from the chassis top plate all the way down to the bottom plate, or extend them if necessary. This is so the chassis side walls don't crack. You will also need to swap the diffs over also, so pick a donor with 10 spline axles.

For brakes I would look to use a pedal from a series3 that had a booster and try to graft the Discovery booster and master cylinder onto it. I'm not sure of plumbing differences.

I'm not sure of your laws, but it may be worth investigating building up a Defender chassis and then swapping the engine/gearbox and body over.

Originally Posted by Slunnie

I'd use the spring perches from a Discovery, but make they they come down from the chassis top plate all the way down to the bottom plate, or extend them if necessary. This is so the chassis side walls don't crack. You will also need to swap the diffs over also, so pick a donor with 10 spline axles.

For brakes I would look to use a pedal from a series3 that had a booster and try to graft the Discovery booster and master cylinder onto it. I'm not sure of plumbing differences.

I'm not sure of your laws, but it may be worth investigating building up a Defender chassis and then swapping the engine/gearbox and body over.

Our laws? We need a valid chassis/VIN number , a valid engine number, receipts and scrapping papers for the donor vehicles and the vehicle must pass roadworthy as a Code 3 : "built up vehicle" and Bob's your Auntie.

I can put a VW Beetle body on a Rangie chassis if I want.

I have access now to a full RRC rolling chassis. I don't want to build a 100 inch hybrid, so we'll probably just steal the relevant bits like shock towers and coil mounts and radius and trailing arm brackets etc.

I would be more inclined to mount the 2a body on a RRC or D1 chassis (same) then it would only be a matter of fabricating the body mounts,then you can use what ever engine you wish 300TDI or V8 either carburatered or injected,manual or auto, fit it with cranked radius rods front and rear and a 2inch spring lift and you would have a fairly competent vehicle

cheers

Originally Posted by UncleHo

I would be more inclined to mount the 2a body on a RRC or D1 chassis (same) then it would only be a matter of fabricating the body mounts,then you can use what ever engine you wish 300TDI or V8 either carburatered or injected,manual or auto, fit it with cranked radius rods front and rear and a 2inch spring lift and you would have a fairly competent vehicle

cheers

Yeah well I'm not revisiting A 4x4 Is Born and cut bodies to fit 100 inch chassis.

I have the 2A and I have 2 choices: upgrade or sell.

It seems the latter would do the trick.

In that case I would be putting Series 2a or 3 wide (3") front drums on and use the Series 3 booster unit,the later 110 pedal is longer and look and feels "odd" you may need to put a limiting valve into the rear system (at diff joint) so that you do not get over braking at the rear,should be able to get limiting valve from dead British Leyland vehicle you had Marina's over there from memory.

or, you could fit front 3" drums and backing plate assembleys to the rear.