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    diesel conversion

    im going to put a desiel in milly some time in the near future
    so im wondering if im missing something in my thourghts.

    so things i need to do are
    use the choke cable for fuel pump
    fit a return fuel line
    wire up glow plugs
    rebuild starter as she strugles to turn the petrol over
    of course wire in the temp and oil senders

    any thing ive forgoten
    or any tips in the change over

    thanks jono

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    The diesel starter is a much larger one than the petrol starter - I doubt the petrol starter will turn a diesel, and if it does, it won't for long. The diesel has a ignition switch with a position for glow plugs, and you probably need a glow plug warning light.

    The diesel engine mounts are different - probably stiffer I think.

    The diesel fuel system has a low fuel warning light - switch incorporated into the sender. Note if changing the sender, when the electrics changed from positive to negative earth, the fuel gauge and sender also changed, and are not compatible, so if you fit a new sender, it needs to be compatible.

    The diesel has heavier front springs.

    I'll probably think of other changes, but these are the ones I can think of at the moment.

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    <<ooops - re-read the post>>

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    it already sits higher in the front so that dont wory me
    i have the ignition out of a desiel sitting at the end of my bed
    the fuel gauge wont wory me ill just fit a 10lt reserve tank like my old one in qld (the gauge was u/s in that one)
    your right the desiel engine mounts are bigger but ive been tolled by the poms that the petrols one give a smover ride
    and thanks ill order one of those hi torce ones from rocky mouintans

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    dont forget the fuel system and its multiple hoses..

    I went through it with fozzy, not hard but I complicated matters on mine by going twin tanks to start with then upgrading to WVO ability.

    its a drop in job, just remember you loose you vac assist brakes unless you retain the power sucking vac generation unit that bolts onto the air intake.

    max rated RPM is down, you also drop 15 odd HP and a handfull of torques but you get a wider delivery.

    overhaul the lift pump BEFORE you put the engine in and I plumbed the lines onto the pump as well and routed them after the engine was in.

    Watch the clutch line on the way out and in with the donk.
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    The others have pretty much covered it. While the diesel shares the same block, that is about it. Crank, flywheel, flywheel housing, cam, head, and lots of other bits are different.

    I converted my 109 around 1999 and have never regretted it. A choke cable works fine as an engine stop. I use a start button to work the glow plugs. I use county (V8) engine and gearbox mounts.

    There are a few easy mods to extract more power, which I have posted previously.

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    I hate to be picky but

    the dimensions of the block crank and flywheel are the same and can be interchanged if you need to. The diesel stuffs just tougher.

    if you wanted to do a super cheap diesel you could do it just by swapping the head and injector pump for the dizzy, it wouldnt last long but it would work.

    the reverse however.......

    if you want to make a super tough petrol, buy the diesel and put the petrol head ,inlet manifold (so you can mount a carby) and dizzy back in.

    going by the book you're not supposed to grind the crank on a diesel 2.25 and you only get one shot at oversizing the pistons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blknight.aus View Post
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    going by the book you're not supposed to grind the crank on a diesel 2.25 and you only get one shot at oversizing the pistons.
    I seem to remember that Tank has a diesel with a reground crankshaft - which is broken, apparently due to failure to properly radius the end of the journal.

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    thanks every one the fuel system dont wory me
    i dont need power
    and i hate spark
    the desiel suits me well
    plus in my opinion desiel is a lot more reliable

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blknight.aus View Post
    the dimensions of the block crank and flywheel are the same and can be interchanged if you need to. The diesel stuffs just tougher.

    if you wanted to do a super cheap diesel you could do it just by swapping the head and injector pump for the dizzy, it wouldnt last long but it would work.
    The crank is the same dimensions (diesel crank is forged), but the diesel flywheel is larger and a LOT heavier - from memory it won't fit in a petrol housing.

    I know of someone who built a 2.25D using a block and crank from a 2.25P. However I doubt you could get the engine to run properly using a petrol cam.


    Quote Originally Posted by hillbilliywheelchair View Post
    plus in my opinion desiel is a lot more reliable
    The 2.25D often gets a bad rap, but mine has been great - reliable, low maintenance, and very cheap to run.

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