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    Windshield Washer Required?

    Hello,
    I am off to get my roadworthy next week. I woke up this morning and the first thing that popped into my head was "do I need a windshield washer"? I cant see where one was ever fitted, so I am going with NO, but any confirmation would be greatly appreciated.

    I see where there are parts in the USA for windshield washers for the US cars,but I am hoping this was only applicable to the North American variants.

    As always, Cheers! - Ronnie

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    ADRs are not retrospective, so they cannot make you fit equipment which wasn't originally there.

    So - no - although you may have to argue the point.

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    I found this on the VicRoads website:
    "All motor vehicles manufactured on or after 1 September 1966 and required to be fitted with a windscreen wiper system must be fitted with an effective windscreen wiper system."

    I'm not sure where or how the original (did it ever have one?) was position or how it worked, but I certainly cant find any traces of anything left over from one previously being fitted. In particular, I dont see any jets..................

    Any help on how to proceed is greatly appreciated as I am off to the roadworthy guys on Wed and VicRoads on Friday.

    Cheers,
    Ronnie

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    Here you go Ronnie


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    Quote Originally Posted by neophyteguy View Post
    I found this on the VicRoads website:
    "All motor vehicles manufactured on or after 1 September 1966 and required to be fitted with a windscreen wiper system must be fitted with an effective windscreen wiper system."

    I'm not sure where or how the original (did it ever have one?) was position or how it worked, but I certainly cant find any traces of anything left over from one previously being fitted. In particular, I dont see any jets..................

    Any help on how to proceed is greatly appreciated as I am off to the roadworthy guys on Wed and VicRoads on Friday.

    Cheers,
    Ronnie
    Your original post mentioned windscreen WASHERS, your quote is about WIPERS. They are 2 different things.

    I have registered 2x 1968 SIIAs (in QLD) with wipers but no washers fitted. No issues.

    However, that said, it is sometimes a PITA not to have washers, and they are relatively easy to fit.

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    BWHAHAHA my RWC bloke said I didn't even need wipers or seatbelts or reverse lights or roof or rollbar or a stack of other things i was stressing about

    Love old cars

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    Quote Originally Posted by isuzurover View Post
    Your original post mentioned windscreen WASHERS, your quote is about WIPERS.
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    should have said "windscreen wipers" from the VicRoads site. Couldnt copy and paste as it was a .pdf and I couldnt figure it out.

    I am off to see my roadworthy guy on Wed and I am not sure what his take is on this. VicRoads says I need one, but I am not really keen to drill holes to put one in if I dont need to........

    Oh yeah, nice pic! Does that mean you are offering to hang out the window on a rainy day? Seriously, thanks for the laugh on this Friday of mine~!~~~~

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    A windscrene "wiper" is different to a windscrene "washer". A wiper is the arm that moves across the windscrene and pushes the water off. A washer is a small jet attached to a pump and water tank which squirts water onto the windscrene to aid in windscrene "wiping".

    A Series Landrover DOES NOT need a windscrene "washer", it does however need windscrene "wipers". If it never was fitted with them in australia then it is not required. The USA is NOT Australia so therefore whatever was done by the yanks has nothing to do with Vic Roads.

    Hope this has cleared things up If the RWC bloke questions you on this, FIRMLY state (be confident) that a Series II Landrover was never fitted with windscrene "washers". Personally wipers and washers would be the last thing on my list for RWC - I would be more worried about the oil leaks

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    Quote Originally Posted by neophyteguy View Post
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    should have said "windscreen wipers" from the VicRoads site. Couldnt copy and paste as it was a .pdf and I couldnt figure it out.

    I am off to see my roadworthy guy on Wed and I am not sure what his take is on this. VicRoads says I need one, but I am not really keen to drill holes to put one in if I dont need to........

    Oh yeah, nice pic! Does that mean you are offering to hang out the window on a rainy day? Seriously, thanks for the laugh on this Friday of mine~!~~~~
    I assume this is what you found?
    SECTION H - Windscreen Wipers, Washers etc.

    All motor vehicles (except motorcycles) fitted with a windscreen must be fitted with an effective windscreen wiper system. If manufactured before 1960 then the wiper need only be fitted to the drivers side. On vehicles where the windscreen is such that a driver, in the normal driving position, can obtain adequate vision of the roadway ahead by looking over the top, below or to a side of the windscreen, a windscreen wiper system is not required.

    If the vehicle is one required by the Standards or ADRs to have a windscreen washer system then the system must be fitted and work effectively.

    All motor vehicles manufactured on or after 1 September 1966 and required to be fitted with a windscreen wiper system must be fitted with an effective windscreen washer system.

    Both the windscreen wiper system and the windscreen washer system must be capable of being operated by the driver from the normal driving position.

    All components of both systems must be secure, functional and not excessively worn. Windscreen wiper blades must only sweep over the windscreen glass and not contact any other component to an extent which could affect their performance while in operation.

    Windscreen washer jets must be correctly aimed.
    The dates in this are strange, because ADR16 which required all vehicles to be fitted with powered wipers AND washers was not introduced till 1973.

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    I think that this is the most important line

    If the vehicle is one required by the Standards or ADRs to have a windscreen washer system then the system must be fitted and work effectively.
    If the compliance plate does not have the relivant ADR stamped on it then you do not require a washer system.

    Honestly though... I have never seen a Series IIA with a washer system and I stand by my previous post - Have you fixed all the leaks? Won't you be kicking yourself if you don't get pulled up for not having a washer system but fail for loose wheel bearings or leaky axel seal all of which are much more important than a washer system ...

    I only assume that your car is perfect and this is the last thing on the list

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