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    slow series 3, gearing or diffs??

    Yay, another arrival for the family, Series 3 SWB Diesel 1976, and only one owner!! It's original, a little worn, but very pretty with parabolic springs and a high speed transfer case which is sitting in the back!!!
    Problem is, this baby is ssslllooowwww, I reckon 75km would be close to flat stick in 4th. The old fella I bought it off said it was like that from new , thats why he got the high speed transfer case but then he never got around to putting it in. The motor is doing it's thing but there is no puff above 75, and sitting on that is not nice, cruising at 60 is fine. Any thoughts brains trust, diff, gearbox, what do I check? Pics are coming!

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    The Series 3 diesel was always notoriously slow, and from memory only had a max speed when new of 55-60mph.
    I don't think that the engine is powerful enough to satisfactorily pull higher ratios, perhaps that's why they were never fitted by the previous owner.

    A full injector and pump service may help improve it's get-up-and-go.

    Make sure that there is no brake drag, tyres are correctly inflated and no unnecessary stuff carried around all the time.

    Good Luck with it.

    Disco Denmark.

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    Havent driven a diesel are any of the others yourve got diesels to test against but the petrol s3,s are screaming at 100ks much more comfortable at 80. Looking at your sig you definatly have roveritus

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    you should be able to hit 85 on the flats without too much hassle (youd want a long runup tho) and about 95-105 as full tilt..
    Dave

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    I regularly sit at 80~85 km/h, can do 90 on the flat, and have done about 103 going down a slight hill. It is much more comfortable doing 75. Mine is a suffix a diesel, from an early SIIa.
    Do you have any black smoke when using full throttle while trying to accelerate? If so, you may have an air restriction. Your SIII engine will originally have a butterfly in the intake manifold. This is only there to provide vacuum for a boosted brake system. A SWB probably doesn't have vacuum brakes, so it is an option to remove the butterfly to get better air flow.
    Are the injectors dribbling ar have a poor spray pattern? This can also cause black smoke. How good is the engine compression?
    There are two screws limiting the travel of the bellcrank on the throttle shaft that goes into the fuel pump. One controls the idle speed, and the other the maximum running speed. Check that the throttle linkages are fully opening the throttle and engaging on this stop.
    Ensure that the injection timing is correct. The workshop manual details how to set the timing. Check the camshaft timing. This is done using a dial indicator on the number one exhaust valve and the EP (exhaust peak) mark on the flywheel. Camshaft timing, and hence injector timing, can and does change as the timing chain stretches. This is why the camshaft chain wheel is provided with six keyways, so as to provide 1/6 of a tooth adjustment.
    This is just a few things to check.

    Aaron.

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    Hi,
    I purchased one brand new and two weeks later went for a 10,000 kilometer trip. From memory flat out speed was about eighty kilometers an hour.

    After being blown of the road from just about every east and west bound semi I came home dejected as I had previously owned a petrol Lancruiser.

    I phoned Fred Black from out of town 4X4 (who in those days worked from an old service station in Argenton Newcastle) and told him about my disparaging trip out west. .

    He booked me in to fit a new fairey overdrive. About six hundred dollars in those days.

    To make a long story short, my Landy turned out to be the best vehicle I had ever owned.

    Later towing a horse float nearly all over Australia with two large stock horses on board, speed was now fine and the
    fairey overdrive box giving me that extra half gear on the hills. After another two hundred thousand kilometers or so, I eventually sold the old girl for another diesel Landcruiser.

    I worked for a few years in the Gulf of Queensland on some of the big cattle stations, right in the heart of Toyota country , the Landy always gave a good account of itself, though it dusted me out more than a few times, something the landcruisers always had over it. they used to blow the bull dust out and away from under the front guards. The Landy was more sharing and sucked it right into the cabin for you.

    I still often wish I had kept it as a second vehicle as off road it was unequaled.

    A couple of pics I have found of it recently.





    Cheers, Ian.


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