Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 11

Thread: Series 3 roof leaking - solutions?

  1. #1
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Location
    Qld
    Posts
    806
    Total Downloaded
    0

    Series 3 roof leaking - solutions?

    Ah Brisbane. Got to love the rain. Unless your daily drive is a series 3 in need of door tops (just need painting and fitting up) and which has water coming in where it shouldn't.



    The leak here I'm guessing is from the windscreen frame to roof turret seal. I have already sealed the gutters inside and out so nothing gets in there any more. But now I get a drip fairly frequently from the sunvisor screw. Feeling above and there is no water so guessing the seal is allowing it in. Can these be replaced without pulling the whole roof off? Is there enough give if the screen bolts are undone? I have a newish one that can go in, do they need silicone or just sit there?




    This one is annoying. Water is dripping in from a seam as indicated by the arrows. The hole with the screws is from a previous owner's roof mounted spot light and is not the source of the leak. Any idea why after 15 months water should start coming in here? Any tips for a fix apart from the obvious silicone solution?

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Jan 1970
    Location
    Ipswich QLD.
    Posts
    1,785
    Total Downloaded
    0
    Mine leaks, I just put up with it. I am currently driving around without the drivers door top, (nearly always do) sometimes I get a little wet, but it is just part of the thrill of driving a Series Land Rover.

    Cheers, Mick.
    1968 SIIa SWB
    1978 SIII Game SWB
    2002 130 Crew Cab HCPU

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Location
    Qld
    Posts
    806
    Total Downloaded
    0
    Which is ok until the novelty of getting wet wears off, after a few days of rain like we've had in Brisbane this week. You know it's heavy when it starts coming in under the seam in the roof as pictured and under the roof-body capping seal at the back.

    I sometimes think that I'd be drier on a motorbike.

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Apr 2002
    Location
    Godwin Beach 4511
    Posts
    20,691
    Total Downloaded
    32.38 MB
    those spray cans of leak sealer can be pretty handy for those sorts of leaks...
    2007 Discovery 3 SE7 TDV6 2.7
    2012 SZ Territory TX 2.7 TDCi

    "Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it." -- a warning from Adolf Hitler
    "If you don't have a sense of humour, you probably don't have any sense at all!" -- a wise observation by someone else
    'If everyone colludes in believing that war is the norm, nobody will recognize the imperative of peace." -- Anne Deveson
    “What you leave behind is not what is engraved in stone monuments, but what is woven into the lives of others.” - Pericles
    "We can ignore reality, but we cannot ignore the consequences of ignoring reality.” – Ayn Rand
    "The happiness of your life depends upon the quality of your thoughts." Marcus Aurelius

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    East-South-East Girt-By-Sea
    Posts
    17,665
    Total Downloaded
    1.20 MB
    It is very difficult to leak-proof a series roof.

    The main problem is water coming under the jointing between the gutter and aluminium roof skin. The only long term effective repair of this problem is to drill out the 6 million rivets, scrape off the dead sealant and replace with Sikaflex then re-rivet 6 million new rivets.

    Without seam welding the joint between the roof skin and the nose panel (as depicted in your images) other solutions are only temporary. Sikaflex rarely penetrates the gap, so Inc's fix is likely one of the better ones or you can use some of the aluminium backed sealing strip, although it is designesd for an external application. Both repairs require the roof to be dust free and completely dry before application.

    Make sure the alpine window is sealing and key-rubber intact, if not replace Key rubber and re-fit window, using winscreen sealant on both the glass and to the aluminium skin. (Wipe off excess)

    You should also re-seal the fixings for the tropical roof, the spacers are prone to cracking and then water gets in and finds its way inside the cab. If you find any loose fixings, inspect the spacer for damage and replace the rubber seal under the washer then re-tighten.

    Diana

    You won't find me on: faceplant; Scipe; Infragam; LumpedIn; ShapCnat or Twitting. I'm just not that interesting.

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Location
    Qld
    Posts
    806
    Total Downloaded
    0
    As always Diana you are a great source of information. Thankfully I don't have the tropical roof or the alpine windows to worry about so that eliminates some of the trouble. My seal between the front of the roof and the windscreen frame is very crusty and on close examination there are a few gaps. I salvaged the seal from another vehicle so may be able to squeeze it in there with some sealant and get a good close seal.

    I used to get a lot of water coming in between the roof and the gutter, some bright spark had used what looked like putty and it had cracked out on the outside. I chiseled all that away around the whole roof turret, sealed it from the outside and the inside with silicone sealer and haven't had a problem since.

    My roof looks like someone or something has hit it causing a slight rut and probably poppint the seam letting the water in. The joys of preowned cars. Hopefully my new door tops, maybe some new door seals, a bit of silicone and some sheer dumb luck might give me a bit of relief.

  7. #7
    drifter Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by pfillery View Post
    As always Diana you are a great source of information. Thankfully I don't have the tropical roof or the alpine windows to worry about so that eliminates some of the trouble. My seal between the front of the roof and the windscreen frame is very crusty and on close examination there are a few gaps. I salvaged the seal from another vehicle so may be able to squeeze it in there with some sealant and get a good close seal.

    I used to get a lot of water coming in between the roof and the gutter, some bright spark had used what looked like putty and it had cracked out on the outside. I chiseled all that away around the whole roof turret, sealed it from the outside and the inside with silicone sealer and haven't had a problem since.

    My roof looks like someone or something has hit it causing a slight rut and probably poppint the seam letting the water in. The joys of preowned cars. Hopefully my new door tops, maybe some new door seals, a bit of silicone and some sheer dumb luck might give me a bit of relief.
    It is a mongrel of a job to replace the windscreen assy (with new seals) without taking the roof off. I did it about a month or so ago. The problem I faced was, with the station wagon, the B pillars were 'difficult' to unbolt because of the 'tart it up' kit installed on/in my vehicle and the seatbelt mounts all causing grief. Removing the headlining surrounds and all those bits and bobs would have been a pain in the butt. Looking back, I would go for the pain in the butt. It would have allowed me some measure of lift at the front to get the new screen in.

    As it was, I basically put the screen in the car and pushed it out into place.

    No leaks there, now.

    Also did the gutter sealing job, too. Down to one small leak now from the door seal (that is one of the next things to be replaced).

  8. #8
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    East-South-East Girt-By-Sea
    Posts
    17,665
    Total Downloaded
    1.20 MB
    Quote Originally Posted by pfillery View Post
    As always Diana you are a great source of information. Thankfully I don't have the tropical roof or the alpine windows to worry about so that eliminates some of the trouble. ...
    I saw the image with a leak and a bolt sticking through the panel and merely assumed it was a wagon roof, which by definition would have an alpine window. Serves me right for not looking closely!

    You won't find me on: faceplant; Scipe; Infragam; LumpedIn; ShapCnat or Twitting. I'm just not that interesting.

  9. #9
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Melbourn(ish)
    Posts
    26,503
    Total Downloaded
    0
    take the door tops off and open the front vents.

    you wont notice the roof leaks anymore.
    Dave

    "In a Landrover the other vehicle is your crumple zone."

    For spelling call Rogets, for mechanicing call me.

    Fozzy, 2.25D SIII Ex DCA Ute
    Tdi autoManual d1 (gave it to the Mupion)
    Archaeoptersix 1990 6x6 dual cab(This things staying)


    If you've benefited from one or more of my posts please remember, your taxes paid for my skill sets, I'm just trying to make sure you get your monies worth.
    If you think you're in front on the deal, pay it forwards.

  10. #10
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Location
    Dayboro, Qld
    Posts
    2,968
    Total Downloaded
    0
    My dormobile leaks through the top of the windscreen, the bottom of the windscreen, through the windscreen glass as it isn't sealed, through the doortops, through the vents, in fact I'd like to know where it doesn't leak

    Traveling back from "Sydney Expo" I thought I was going to drown, but it's all on the "to do" list

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Bookmarks

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Search AULRO.com ONLY!
Search All the Web!