A diesel called "Baldrick"

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Originally Posted by JDNSW

Do not fill the bottom section with oil - fill it up to the step about an inch above the bottom. The oil to use is non critical (but should be clean) - use the same oil you put in the engine. As mentioned the six and four have different filters. The four cylinder filter, petrol or diesel, is the same from Series 2 to Series 3, and is the same as Series 1 diesel. As mentioned, the six is different.

John

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Hello John, Blknight others,

When I go to fill the oil cleaner bowl as directed by John, Blknight and others, do I only place the oil in the only within the inside concentric circle? Or should both the inside and outside circles be filled to the same level? I have looked at a couple of manuals and cannot find anything specific about which part of the bowl the oils should go in.
In the link about oil cleaners Blknight has a photo which has a caption that says - "pan ready to go back on". This does show oil both in the inside and outside concentric circles. Was filling both circles deliberate or accidental?

Is the inside - centre circle meant to be a baffle so the oil does not splash everywhere while driving across sloping or rough ground? Your assistance to clarify the correct filling would be much valued.

Kind Regards
Lionel

I haven't filled a Land Rover filter with oil for years; however; most oil-bath housings have a drilling between the compartments to allow the oil to find a common level.

Have a look at yours and see if there is a hole, or two between them,

Cheers Charlie

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Originally Posted by Dinty

G'day All,
Mate my guess is that the air cleaner is for a 6cyl 2.6lt engine, the give away for me is the height of the top, 4cyl version is smaller, check it against your S3 military Land Rover, cheers Dennis:angel:

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Hello Dinty and others,

Thanks to the assistance of Paul AKA Pop058 I now have a 2.25 litre air cleaner & the correct dip stick. A couple of weeks ago, just after Dinty sent me the message above, I took the air cleaner that I photographed on Baldrick and went for a walk through my paddock to where Morse is. That air cleaner fit like a glove in Morse who has a 2.6 litre petrol engine - or parts thereof.

Today I put the air cleaner I got from Paul and I placed it into Baldrick's bracket and it fit like a glove too. So Dinty was 100% correct and the problem is solved. Plus I no longer have bits of storm water pipe sticking up out of Baldrick's mudguard and I don't have to put a cover over the open storm water pipe hole each day. Now I just have to fix up a big hole that is now left in the top of the mudguard.


Thank you for everyone else who made some sound suggestions as to why the air cleaner I had earlier did not fit into Baldrick.

Kind Regards
Lionel

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Originally Posted by Lionelgee

Hello John, Blknight others,

When I go to fill the oil cleaner bowl as directed by John, Blknight and others, do I only place the oil in the only within the inside concentric circle? Or should both the inside and outside circles be filled to the same level? I have looked at a couple of manuals and cannot find anything specific about which part of the bowl the oils should go in.
In the link about oil cleaners Blknight has a photo which has a caption that says - "pan ready to go back on". This does show oil both in the inside and outside concentric circles. Was filling both circles deliberate or accidental?

Is the inside - centre circle meant to be a baffle so the oil does not splash everywhere while driving across sloping or rough ground? Your assistance to clarify the correct filling would be much valued.

Kind Regards
Lionel

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You'll find there is a set of holes - about four from memory, that ensures that if filled to the step, both are filled. The centre circle is, I think, as much about airflow as it is about stopping the oil slopping, although it would affect both.

John

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Originally Posted by JDNSW

You'll find there is a set of holes - about four from memory, that ensures that if filled to the step, both are filled. The centre circle is, I think, as much about airflow as it is about stopping the oil slopping, although it would affect both.

John

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G'day John,

Okay now I have the original type of oil bath air cleaner back on, and it is topped up with oil to the appropriate level it looks and sounds much nicer.

Just one thing though - is it common that upon start up for the first time with the oil bath air cleaner in place that a great pall of smoke emerges from the exhaust? It did quickly clear but it was a bit of a worry. Especially since the breeze blew the smoke straight towards the clothes line which was full of newly washed clothes. :wasntme:

Kind Regards
Lionel

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Originally Posted by Lionelgee

G'day John,

Okay now I have the original type of oil bath air cleaner back on, and it is topped up with oil to the appropriate level it looks and sounds much nicer.

Just one thing though - is it common that upon start up for the first time with the oil bath air cleaner in place that a great pall of smoke emerges from the exhaust? It did quickly clear but it was a bit of a worry. Especially since the breeze blew the smoke straight towards the clothes line which was full of newly washed clothes. :wasntme:

Kind Regards
Lionel

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No, it is not common - does suggest (if related to the aircleaner) that the aircleaner was overfilled with oil, or the wire mesh elements were not allowed to dry fully after being washed, or the oil is too low a viscosity, or the aircleaner had been left lying on its side for some time with oil in it. Checking the inside of the feed hose to the manifold for signs of oil should clarify if it was related to the aircleaner. Note that burnt oil will be blue or blue-grey, unburnt fuel, black, and coolant (steam) white. A constricted aircleaner will result in unburnt fuel in a diesel, but not usually on starting.

John

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Originally Posted by JDNSW

No, it is not common - does suggest (if related to the aircleaner) that the aircleaner was overfilled with oil, or the wire mesh elements were not allowed to dry fully after being washed, or the oil is too low a viscosity, or the aircleaner had been left lying on its side for some time with oil in it. Checking the inside of the feed hose to the manifold for signs of oil should clarify if it was related to the aircleaner. Note that burnt oil will be blue or blue-grey, unburnt fuel, black, and coolant (steam) white. A constricted aircleaner will result in unburnt fuel in a diesel, but not usually on starting.

John

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has been stored upright for quite awhile :)

Hello All,

Baldrick's previous owners had a camper on the tray which also extended forward over the cab. On this overhang they had fitted a Donaldson air cleaner. In the photo I put a red circle which marked where the air cleaner used to be mounted.

Is there any recommended distance between the air intake of the diesel engine and the location of the Donaldson air cleaner? I am getting a new head board made for the tray and I am considering getting a flat plate welded horizontally to the frame so the air cleaner could be mounted just behind the passenger side of the cabin's roof. Would this distance be too far for the Donaldson air cleaner to work effectively? I have put a green-blue circle and arrow on the photo to show roughly the location where I am considering putting the air cleaner at a later date. The head board was removed from the tray when the previous owners fitted the camper and head board has long since gone.

I do not want to obscure my peripheral vision by mounting the air cleaner on the top of the passenger side mud guard.

Kind Regards
Lionel

Hello All,

Bearing in mind this is the first Land Rover diesel motor I have had anything to do with ....

What is the acceptable compression range for a 2.25 Litre three bearing diesel engine, that was built in 1976?

I would like to get a better picture of how well Baldrick is travelling.

Kind Regards
Lionel

best performance check is to take the camper off the back and take it for a run up the bruce for half and hour. Should sit on about 54mph if it is running upto the governor. The half an hour should also give you a good indication if it is going to run hot, leak, blow hoses etc. Drop the oil when you get back and have a look for anything untoward.

Second test is to start on a cold morning within about 3 revolutions with a bit of glow. Ultimate test cold start no glowplug.


Love your 3 main crankshaft. :cool: