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    Series raiko bush

    I have slight front swivel movement up and down, to tighten it do I remove a shim or two on the top king pin or do I need to replace the bush to firm it up.Hope I have explained it correctly.
    Cheers Will

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    Hi Will

    Yes you probably do need to adjust the preload (remove shims), but you first need make sure that the movement is not something else loose (like the stub axle) or worn wheel bearings.

    The important thing to check that the pin is not loose in the Raiko bush and the fibrous bush in the botton of the bush housing is still there and not worn out.

    Remove the seal retaining plate and/replace sufficient shims to remove the up/down freeplay and get the correct pre-load. You usually remove the same amount of shim from both top and bottom.

    N.B: Remember when removing shims, the large seal on the chrome ball needs to be centred. To check with retaining plate still off and the swivel in the straight ahead position, see that the seal offers up evenly top and bottom. If you have to press harder on the top to make the seal seat, then you have to move shims from the bottom to the top. If you need more pressure at the bottom to seat the seal, then you need to move shim from the top to the bottom. Then re-check seal centering and pre-load.

    Always check pre-load with the tie rods disconnected and the seal removed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies View Post

    Remove the seal retaining plate and/replace sufficient shims to remove the up/down freeplay and get the correct pre-load. You usually remove the same amount of shim from both top and bottom.

    N.B: Remember when removing shims, the large seal on the chrome ball needs to be centred. To check with retaining plate still off and the swivel in the straight ahead position, see that the seal offers up evenly top and bottom. If you have to press harder on the top to make the seal seat, then you have to move shims from the bottom to the top. If you need more pressure at the bottom to seat the seal, then you need to move shim from the top to the bottom. Then re-check seal centering and pre-load.


    Diana
    Diana, my S3 manual says that the equalising of shims is not required although what you have described is exactly what I did on my S1.

    In the S3 manual the last task is to centre the seal by loosening the retaining bolts and ensuring that the seal wipes the entire surface of the swivel housing; the seal can be moved to facilitate this.

    I found this hard to believe when I did it on my S3, but it appears to have worked with no oil leaking from the swivel,

    Cheers Charlie

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    Hi Chazza

    I have at least I swivel housing on a SIIB that requires no shims on the bottom to seat the seal correctly. However with so many pattern parts and re-chromed balls the few minutes extra work to check and adjust the centering I consider time well spent, if it reduces the possibility subsequent leaks.

    It's the same as applying some sealant to the back side of the seal/retaining plate, the manual doesn't mention it but again reduces the chance of oil bypassing the seal and causing a leak.

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    Hi Diana
    Thank you for the advise. I took 2 shims from the top and it feels good and firm but stills turns freely. There doesn't appear to be any shims on the bottom.Is the bush and king pin slightly tapered? The king pin has a few marks and a bit of rust so will replace at some time.I just want to get it on the road.
    Cheers Will

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    The railko pin is parrallel sided, what usually wears in the disk in the bottom, but if the pin is sloppy (side to side) in the bush then it should be replaced.

    The bearing at the bottom is a tapered roller bearing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by will d8r View Post
    Hi Diana
    Thank you for the advise. I took 2 shims from the top and it feels good and firm but stills turns freely. There doesn't appear to be any shims on the bottom.Is the bush and king pin slightly tapered? The king pin has a few marks and a bit of rust so will replace at some time.I just want to get it on the road.
    Cheers Will
    As mentioned by Charlie, the Series III manual doesn't mention shims on the bottom. From memory the shims won't fit over the lower pin so all adjustment is by shimming the top.
    If through the changing of parts over the years the swivel ball doesn't fit centrally then you would have to modify the shims to fit over the lower pin.
    I had a problem with one of mine and had to 'modify' the seal to get even contact on the ball.

    As Diana mentioned it pays to add some sealant to the seal housing.




    I've also been reccomended to add some grease between the two lips of the swivel seal. The manual mentions packing the 'inboard seal' with grease but I assume they mean the seal that the driveshaft goes through.


    Here's a link to Railko (now owned by Tenmat). http://www.tenmat.com/ContentId/128


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