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Thread: Serial numbers... again

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    Serial numbers... again

    Hi guys, I've been trying to work out what engine I have, its number starts with '151xxxxxx', which, according to this site (link below), makes it a Series II engine. The chassis number that came with the vehicle (plate only, there was no actual chassis number stamped on the chassis), was clearly an SIII... is there anyway to tell either (a) what chassis it is, and/or (b) what engine it is by its features?

    [I may have to change forums if I really have a SII!]

    TeZZa

    Land Rover, Range Rover engine numbers

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    Series 3 chassis are easy to tell, the chassis rails are 2 pressed halves seam welded in the middle of the top and bottom of the box. All the other series Land Rovers have chassis rails where there are 4 plates welded together at the corners.

    In Australia the chassis number is the determining factor in vehicle identification and the reason that chassis swaps are awkward for registration.

    Diana

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    The Chassis number on Australian vehicles is stamped on the rear left spring hanger, but most sources will tell you that it is on the front right as this was the location on British vehicles.

    You may already know this, but I just wanted to make sure you were checking the right spot for a chassis number. I got caught out by this myself!
    [B][I]Andrew[/I][/B]

    [COLOR="YellowGreen"][U]1958 Series II SWB - "Gus"[/U][/COLOR]
    [COLOR="DarkGreen"][U]1965 Series IIA Ambulance 113-896 - "Ambrose"[/U][/COLOR]
    [COLOR="#DAA520"][U]1981 Mercedes 300D[/U][/COLOR]
    [U]1995 Defender 110[/U]
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    is it a 4 cylinder vehicle? It may just have had a replacement engine from a series 2 fitted at some stage!
    1994 Discovery TDi
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    1961, Series 2 Ambulance. 108-098 - Eden

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shonky View Post
    The Chassis number on Australian vehicles is stamped on the rear left spring hanger, but most sources will tell you that it is on the front right as this was the location on British vehicles.

    You may already know this, but I just wanted to make sure you were checking the right spot for a chassis number. I got caught out by this myself!
    Thanks, but yes I've already played that game and its definitely not there (either front or rear hangers; back to bare metal and zilch!)

    Here are some pics;
    Last edited by TeZZaP; 11th June 2012 at 08:28 AM.

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    That is a series 2 series 2a chassis.

    The chassis number, if on the rear is on the rear shackle chassis bracket, not on the spring hanger.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies View Post
    That is a series 2 series 2a chassis.
    Wow, thanks interesting! A bit of history is probably needed here; I bought it as a rolling chassis; engine/gearbox plus axles all in place, but no body panels. The guys that sold it to me said it was a SIII and hunted around he's yard and gave me all the SIII panels for it. The chassis number I have came from the makers plate that was loose but with the vehicle (ie not attached to any panels). As mentioned, the chassis number is missing from the actual chassis and it had no VIN#/compliance plate. I wonder if it ever had SIII body parts or whether the guy was wrong (or was told the wrong info from whomever he got it from) and I've been working on a 'genuine' SII all along!

    So, to recap, its an SII engine, on a SII/SIIa chassis, is there anyway to tell what series the rest of the running gears is? ie the Axles/gearbox/Diff?

    How exciting!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies View Post
    That is a series 2 series 2a chassis.

    The chassis number, if on the rear is on the rear shackle chassis bracket, not on the spring hanger.

    That area has had work done in the past.

    See this thread for the missing chassis number saga;

    http://www.aulro.com/afvb/series-3/5...r-missing.html

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    All the major components (chassis, engine, gearbox, axle casings) have serial numbers the general rule is that the number on the major assembly is the same as the RHD Home market vehicle of similar configuration. ie CKD 109s 4 cyl will use the RHD 4cyl 109" home market number, a CKD 6cyl will have the the RHD 6cyl Home market number etc etc.

    On the gearbox the number is usually stamped on the side of the selector cover.

    On axle assemblies it is on the top of the long side of the axle casing.

    Engine numbers you know about.

    Diana

    addit: if you cant find a number, some could be tempted to find a vehicle with a rusted out chassis, then buy the ID plate and the bit of chassis where the number is getting a receipt for the whole vehicle. Then stamp the salvaged number in the correct place.
    Last edited by Lotz-A-Landies; 14th August 2008 at 12:30 PM. Reason: addit:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies View Post
    The chassis number, if on the rear is on the rear shackle chassis bracket, not on the spring hanger.
    Thanks Diana. I knew what I meant!
    [B][I]Andrew[/I][/B]

    [COLOR="YellowGreen"][U]1958 Series II SWB - "Gus"[/U][/COLOR]
    [COLOR="DarkGreen"][U]1965 Series IIA Ambulance 113-896 - "Ambrose"[/U][/COLOR]
    [COLOR="#DAA520"][U]1981 Mercedes 300D[/U][/COLOR]
    [U]1995 Defender 110[/U]
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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