Thread: Game Mudflap brackets

Originally Posted by Timj

As Killer says my 1978 is No 282 and the 1977 is No 211. I'm not sure how much those numbers have to do with the order they were built in or if they were just stamped in some random manner like you would expect from Landrover . The reason I say that is that mine is a 5/78 build date and is 282 while Killer's is a 2/78 build date and is 288. Also Killer's has different wheels (still Sunraysia 15x8) but has been in his family since new so he can guarantee that they are the wheels it came with.

That's really interesting to see the number 159 as that would be the lowest number I have seen. One other I know of in Ocean Shores is about 170 I believe.

I have a copy of an article that reckons there were as few as 100 made but the stamped numbers seem to suggest about 300 since they were only made up to 1978 and high 200s seems to be the go for the 78 ones (if the numbers actually run in any sequence). It would be interesting to know if they started at 1 or maybe at 100 and it also would be interesting to know if there are any from 1976 out there.

I am going to start another thread to see if we can get some sort of register of the numbers and other details as I would really like to know.

TimJ.

Tim, I was wondering as the vehicles were CKD's whether the build date could be when they were manufactured in Sulihull, and by time they came out here the order could have got a bit mixed up.
Ours has not quite been in the family from new, Rillis's Father got it in 1982, so was about 4 years old, so it is concievable that the wheels could have been changed in that time, but I don't see why you would.
A register would be great.

Cheers, Mick.

Originally Posted by Killer

Tim, I was wondering as the vehicles were CKD's whether the build date could be when they were manufactured in Sulihull, '

The GAME were an Australian production only. Probably only the plastic dash, the rear door and the station wagon window panels would have been pressed in Solihull. Pressed Metals Corp, the assembly plant in Enfield NSW had been pressing panels from the 1950's so it was mainly the engines, transmission and instruments that were ex-UK. Even the wheels had been Australian manufactured since 1953 and the wheels on the GAME were no exception.

AFAIK all the GAME wheels were the 10 spoke (individually welded to the rim), not the later Sunraysia brand wheels with the pressed 8 hole centre.

Numbers are stamped at the end of the assembly line, not in the CKD kits before shipping. An out of sequence vehicle probably had some fit or finish problem that had to be rectified prior to the compliance plate being affixed.

Thanks Lotz-A-Landies,

I love to hear the information available from people on this forum. When no one can give me a straight answer as to questions like how many were made I find myself just having to try and chase it down . Your help is greatly appreciated. If the panels were stamped in Australia where were the chassis made?

TimJ.

Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies

The GAME were an Australian production only. Probably only the plastic dash, the rear door and the station wagon window panels would have been pressed in Solihull. Pressed Metals Corp, the assembly plant in Enfield NSW had been pressing panels from the 1950's so it was mainly the engines, transmission and instruments that were ex-UK. Even the wheels had been Australian manufactured since 1953 and the wheels on the GAME were no exception.

Funnily enough I was just reading one of the articles I have (Land Rover Enthusiast Feb 2001, posted in the thread about the register of Games) and the author states they were imported fully built. Not sure where his information would come from though.

AFAIK all the GAME wheels were the 10 spoke (individually welded to the rim), not the later Sunraysia brand wheels with the pressed 8 hole centre.

The wheels on Killer's Game are a pressed centre but are still 10 spoke while all the other Game wheels I have seen are the individually welded ones.

Just more to add to the confusion .

TimJ.

There is also another 77 Game at Techno British in Brisbane, it still has everything except the proper game rims. It was a very nice looking game until they started to modify it but none the less another game

Originally Posted by Timj

Funnily enough I was just reading one of the articles I have (Land Rover Enthusiast Feb 2001, posted in the thread about the register of Games) and the author states they were imported fully built. Not sure where his information would come from though.
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Tim
PMC rarely if ever assembled 88" station wagons so there is a possibility that the vehicles were imported to a special order, however the Game was a marketing ploy by Leyland/Jaguar Rover Australia (whichever it was at the time) and AFAIK the yellow colour was the same as one of the options on the Moke Californian that were being built at the Zetland plant. The rims were Australian, not sure of the manufacturer but it may have been Dowling's Tyre Service in Fairfield who were also doing a five spoke wheel. In 1976 for my 253V8 SIIa 109, I chose the 5 spoke style because I didn't like the 10 spoke style, my other choice. So the 10 spoke rims pre-dated production of the Game.

OK guys just to throw a curve ball at ya. My great grandfather owned a lwb series 3 that had the game colour code. It had everything from the black on the front of the guards to the silver up on the bulkhead. My father has a picture in his lounge of it parked next to his series three of the time and from the front it is identical to my game. Has anyone heard or seen this before? We would love to know why his long wheel base had the very distinct colour coding of the game.

A few options come to mind.

You could order special production vehicles from PMC if you were prepared to wait, it is why many civilian 109 ended up with one ton chassis. The wheels were available aftermarket and all the trim panels were standard options, usually for 109 wagons but the door trim could be fitted to any Land Rover.

Secondly the Department of Civil Aviation always had bright yellow Land Rovers, PMC was likely to use the yellow colour they were using for the Game for other production Land Rovers, including DCA. But at production it would not have had the silver firewall or black on the front guards.

Someone decided to make a 109" game after they purchased the vehicle.

Addit: On the 10 spoke rims. 10 Spoke 15" rims were available for both Land Rover and for Range Rover, while they look the same the offset for the Range Rover ones were different to the ones for the Land Rover including the Game.