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    Quote Originally Posted by Muckinhell View Post
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    I am wanting to convert to the later glow plugs and wire it in paralell for more reliability so any help there on how that wiring should go and the appropriate glow plugs to replace the heater plugs would be greatly appreciated....
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    Living where you do, unless you like skiing, I would not bother updating the glow plugs for reliability - it should start easily without glowplugs as long as the temperature is above freezing, if the engine is in reasonable condition. When I had one of these engines I have started it at ten below without glow plugs. And the originals are quite reliable anyway, it is just that if one fails, you have none.

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    JDNSW how long would it take to crank it over and start it on a normal summers day if you hadnt started it in a while???

    mine takes a bit of cranking with foot to the floor before she fires up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muckinhell View Post
    JDNSW how long would it take to crank it over and start it on a normal summers day if you hadnt started it in a while???

    mine takes a bit of cranking with foot to the floor before she fires up.
    Foot to the floor while cranking is the correct way to start 2.25Ds (and other IDI diesels).

    On a hot summers day mine will start with just a few seconds of cranking (no glow plugs).

    In winter - 30-60 seconds of glowing is needed. I (like others) have found that cranking for a few seconds to put some fuel in the chambers, then glowing, speeds the process up slightly.

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    ok well mine takes prob 30- 60 secs of cranking in summer to get going so i guess she needs a tune and is the reason for alot of bluish white smoke that it blows as well. but once its going it sounds a runs great. apart from the smoke when there are some revs under it,

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    Great thread Muckinhell et al. I am learning heaps about my 2.25D also.

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    hows your truck for starting and how does it get vacuum for the brakes sleepy?

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    hows your truck for starting and how does it get vacuum for the brakes sleepy?
    She starts fine - 10 sec of glow plug first thing in the morning, a couple of cranks and away I rattle. Blows a bit of white smoke until warm. Motor was rebuilt only 2 years ago so runs and starts great.

    As for the vacuum I understand there is a butterfly arrangement on the inlet (Ben or John can you please explain again for me too)
    Here's a pic of mine...



    I recall Ben saying you can get more power by removing it and going for an independent vacuum source, which I will get to eventually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muckinhell View Post
    ok well mine takes prob 30- 60 secs of cranking in summer to get going so i guess she needs a tune and is the reason for alot of bluish white smoke that it blows as well. but once its going it sounds a runs great. apart from the smoke when there are some revs under it,
    Blue smoke is oil - sounds like your valve stem seals or rings need doing. Which likely means you are down on compression - hence the slow starting.


    Quote Originally Posted by Sleepy View Post
    She starts fine - 10 sec of glow plug first thing in the morning, a couple of cranks and away I rattle. Blows a bit of white smoke until warm. Motor was rebuilt only 2 years ago so runs and starts great.

    As for the vacuum I understand there is a butterfly arrangement on the inlet (Ben or John can you please explain again for me too)
    Here's a pic of mine...



    I recall Ben saying you can get more power by removing it and going for an independent vacuum source, which I will get to eventually.
    The 2nd pic - directly down from the fuel filter, shows the butterfly - and the vacuum line off the top of the intake. The butterfly is a huge restriction in the intake, which diesels shouldn't have.

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    if its rings whats the cost expected to renew those or would a whole rebuild be more benificial....

    mine doesnt have that butterfly anymore so im looking as you will have read previously in here into an alternate source of vacuum preferably a alternator with vacuum pump but not a new one as there upwards of $400 and 12v vacuum systems are that price too approx. So im also looking into other diesel vehicles vacuum systems to see if i can adapr one of them somehow.

    by the way nice s3 wagon i read the thread about that truck...very nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muckinhell View Post
    if its rings whats the cost expected to renew those or would a whole rebuild be more benificial....

    mine doesnt have that butterfly anymore so im looking as you will have read previously in here into an alternate source of vacuum preferably a alternator with vacuum pump but not a new one as there upwards of $400 and 12v vacuum systems are that price too approx. So im also looking into other diesel vehicles vacuum systems to see if i can adapr one of them somehow.

    by the way nice s3 wagon i read the thread about that truck...very nice.
    I may be getting a surplus 2nd hand Land Rover vacuum butterfly this weekend. Is that what you're looking for to pass rego?

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