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    Regulations on brake lines

    Just heard on the grapevine from someone who wasn't sure about rules. He thought that the use of copper brake lines was no longer allowed. And that I should use steel lines now.

    Can someone let me know if this is right or not? I am about to order a brake line kit for my 1975 SWB - putting a dual line system in it too!

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    You are correct. Copper is not legal, have to be steel.
    Watch out for the brake pipe kits from the UK. Their rules are different and the kits on Ebay are copper.
    Best way is to get the pipes made up to a wire template at a brake fitter.

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    Thanks Phil,

    is that just a nsw thing or a Oz thing?

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    They can't be copper, but they can be a special copper alloy that does not work harden. This is available, and can be supplied by at least some brake and hydraulic specialists. It looks much the same as copper but is marked along its length at close intervals, although I can't remember what the marking is.

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    The regulations vary from State to State.

    Ring an engineer in the Qld licencing Dept and ask them; if you want the most accurate answer,

    Cheers Charlie

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    Ok, I'll just assume the worst then.

    I guess at least I heard about it before I bought the kit and spent big $$ on it, then had to rip it all out and throw it away.

    Thanks for your help guys. I'll be looking at prices on benders, flaring tools, pipe and fittings. Is there a standard fitting that I need? it's not the same all over the car is it....

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    Quote Originally Posted by debruiser View Post
    ...... Is there a standard fitting that I need? it's not the same all over the car is it....
    No, and furthermore, the threads vary with when the vehicle was made. As many parts are interchangeable between models, you need to check what is actually required on the hydraulic fittings you actually are using. UNF is probably the most common, but Series 1 is mostly BSF and some Series 3 or recent "pattern" parts are likely to be metric. A thread gauge is probably a good investment!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDNSW View Post
    No, and furthermore, the threads vary with when the vehicle was made. As many parts are interchangeable between models, you need to check what is actually required on the hydraulic fittings you actually are using. UNF is probably the most common, but Series 1 is mostly BSF and some Series 3 or recent "pattern" parts are likely to be metric. A thread gauge is probably a good investment!

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    thanks....

    WHY DO THEY MAKE IT SO HARD! lol.

    I've got a 75 SWB with brakes from a 78 LWB 1ton going on it. SO really i've got a 78 Lwb I will see if I have a thread gauge that is appropriate.

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    So quickly measured some brakes lines - 5mm is what I got. Whats that in imperial? yes i know it's 0.196 850 393 7 inch but is that considered 3/16?

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    Quote Originally Posted by debruiser View Post
    Just heard on the grapevine from someone who wasn't sure about rules. He thought that the use of copper brake lines was no longer allowed. And that I should use steel lines now.

    Copper has never been legal as far as I know, (in Victoria anyway) when I was rebuilding my first Landrover in the early 80's I had to use steel back then !!

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