Thread: Stromberg Carby

Hello All,

I had a look at the carburettors recommended by the HQ Racing Technical Specifications and compared it against the FB/EK Holden Stromberg Carburettor Enthusiasts Guide (Accessed January 24, 2017 from https://www.scribd.com/doc/68315221/Carburettor-Guide

I got some strange results too

23-3052 not listed in the FB/EK Guide
23-3053 Holden HQ and LJ 202 CI engines with automatic transmission
23-3075 Holden HQ 202 CI engines with automatic transmission
23-3076 Holden HQ 202 CI engines with Manual Transmissions
23-3084 Holden HJ and LJ and LH Toranas, 202CI engines

23-3073 Now this bit is really interesting ... Holden HQ 173 CI engines with automatic transmission - could be a typographic error somewhere in either publications

23-3091 Holden 1975 LH and LX Toranas and HJ 202 CI engines with manual transmissions
23-3092 Holden HJ and LH and LX Torana 202 Ci six cylinder engine with manual transmission

I will have a look at some more sources to track the missing ones down and confirm the details about the strange results for 23-3073!

I checked another source Listing of Stromberg Carby Codes HOLDEN / FORD posted by jimbobhtute Accessed January 24, 2017 from http://www.fastlane.com.au/forum/pos...DEN--FORD.aspx and it confirms that "23-3073 HQ 173ci AUTO " So looks like a slip up from the HQ Racing crew. No references to 23-3052 or 23-3092 either

According to gm3300 Grant the collection of numbers that appear after the main grouping such as 23-3053 represent the date code, for example 1-39 represents 1 is 1971 and 39 is the 39th week of that year. Accessed January 24, 2017 from, http://www.gmh-torana.com.au/forums/...-ww-carby-info.

Just a reminder that I am reliant upon the sources getting things correct. I take no responsibility for any errors - I am presenting information available on the internet.

Now the missing listing of 23-3052 was found on an eBay seller's site - According to Hume Performance the Stromberg 23-3052 Holden HQ 202 manual Torana GTR 1971 to 1973 Carburettor Suit Holden HQ Kingswood 6 cyl 1971 to 1973 manual transmission Accessed January 24, 2017 from, http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/STROMBERG...-/152382574721

There is a lot of cross-pollination out there with people borrowing information from other people's sites - however I found a third source that suggests that 23-3073 is a HQ 173ci AUTO Accessed January 24, 2017 from, http://www.monarocoupe.com/wordpress...-model-numbers. Being Autistic I will contact the HQ racing Association to find why they listed 23-3073.

My work here is done - I will away ....

Kind Regards
Lionel

Finally found what I was looking for.
Have a browse through this Lionel, it should tell you all you need to know and more!


https://www.scribd.com/doc/68315221/Carburettor-Guide


Cheers, Mick.

Originally Posted by mick88

Finally found what I was looking for.
Have a browse through this Lionel, it should tell you all you need to know and more!


https://www.scribd.com/doc/68315221/Carburettor-Guide


Cheers, Mick.

G'day Mick,

Thanks for the link. I think you may be preaching to the converted Mick. Have a glance at the second line of the message that I sent 24th January 2017, 08:52 PM

Gee Mick's link looks familiar! Teehee! I hope you did not devote too much time finding the link. Much appreciated anyway Mick.

Kind Regards
Lionel

Hello All,

Apologies again to Dark for hi-jacking this thread.

In light of some information from the Old-Holdens and GMH Torana threads my engine with a XQL prefix is an ADR27A 202 motor which were fitted to July 76 onwards LX/UC Toranas, with Tri-Matic transmissions (accessed January 26, 2017 from, Torana engine numbers - General Discussion - GMH-Torana Posted 29 September 2008 - 10:48 AM by Dr Terry).

From earlier posts my replacement carburettor is 23-3092 which the Stromberg Carburettor bible (https://www.scribd.com/doc/68315221/Carburettor-Guide) identifies is 23-3092 Holden HJ and LH and LX Torana 202 Ci six cylinder engine with manual transmission. According to Dr Terry - the engine is from the next bracket of Toranas LX to UC.

Depending upon how far into the LX to UC run my engine was - say yet to be confirmed early LX then I might just have the correct Stromberg Carburettor after all.

I have put some feelers out amongst the Torana community to find out what part of the LX-UC Torana run my engine was made in. I could be lucky.

There is a casting number apparently to the left of the dipstick that is supposed to be very definitive - down to date of manufacture. Only trouble is there is not enough room to get down there next to that part of the engine to see it. When I have tried sliding my digital camera down while I lean over the mudguard or up into the engine bay while I am lying on the ground - I just take pictures of the word "Holden" and keep missing the right part for the casting number! I will try again later.

Oh and apparently the XQL engines are "rare" .... how come I can't do "simples"

Kind Regards
Lionel

No need to apologize Lionel, this has all been very informative and I get the desire to hunt down the info entirely.

I keep forgetting to ask - all lines into the carby on my Holden are metal. On my other Landys they start off metal and turn into plastic and then terminate in metal . Do you just chop off the metal pipe after a few centimeters and crimp it on with a hose clamp - or do you buy the metal part?

cheers,

D

Originally Posted by Dark61

No need to apologize Lionel, this has all been very informative and I get the desire to hunt down the info entirely.

I keep forgetting to ask - all lines into the carby on my Holden are metal. On my other Landys they start off metal and turn into plastic and then terminate in metal . Do you just chop off the metal pipe after a few centimeters and crimp it on with a hose clamp - or do you buy the metal part?

cheers,

D

Hello Dark,

In short Dark I used a mixture of both "plastic" fuel lines and metal ones just like Land Rover did.

As you know I do not apparently do "simples". I did not like how the previous owner had run the fuel lines within the engine bay. It ran too close to the motor and for too great a distance along it. Also I bypassed the mechanical fuel pump so the fuel line so I could re-route it.

I also put a Facet cylinder electric fuel pump similar to the original Land Rover six cylinder "Bendix" cylinder fuel pump. Except that I moved the pump away from the near the fuel tank and relocated it where the Australian Army moved the pump for ease of access.

My fuel line goes like this:

1) Fuel tank sender metal into black "plastic" fuel line to fuel pump - on to Ryco Z 14 fuel filter to plastic pipe

2) Plastic pipe that connects to the metal fittings input and output of the fuel pump

3) Exit fuel pump from metal fitting back into plastic fuel line. The fuel line then runs on top of the driver's side chassis rail and comes up along the firewall into the engine bay.

4) It then runs along the edge of the top section of the fire wall - well it will after I remove where the previous owner had the Bosch/Holden Coil clamped.

5) The fuel line then comes along the inside of the passenger side mudguard - into an elbow and then connects to a metal fitting that screws into the carburettor.

I have not secured the fuel line along the firewall as yet because I need to cut it and put in the Holley Pressure Regulator. Once the engine is running again I will put the "P" clips in to tidy it up the fuel lines as much as possible.

I am also removing the Ryco z14 and upgrading to a better Ryco Fuel Filter Z468 that will go closer to the fuel pump and not just near the edge of the fuel tank. I have my own set of pipe benders and flaring tools so I can play and have Mark I ... Mark II ...

I used Utilix clips not just the press in ones because I don't trust little clips that can be taken off with finger pressure or light pliers. The Ryco Fuel filters come with lightweight clips and I simply do not trust them. Something to do with fuel spraying over a hot engine puts me off them!

Then again .... I do not do "simples" apparently

Kind Regards
Lionel

Ah - so you make up your own pipes - you dont just saw off whats there and then add the plastic tubing? Is that the go generally do you think?
Cheers,
D

Originally Posted by Dark61

Ah - so you make up your own pipes - you dont just saw off whats there and then add the plastic tubing? Is that the go generally do you think?
Cheers,
D

Hello Dark,

It depends upon the diameter of the pipe and if it is pointing in the direction you want it to go. My case the direction was not to my liking and I diverted the fuel line from how the previous owner had it.

What I presume - possibly incorrectly, is the original Land Rover installed connection from the metal fuel tank outlet to the plastic fuel line joiner did not even have a clamp. the fit was so good. Whether you get the same fit from the current pipe on the Holden Stromberg might be a different story though!

Kind Regards
Lionel