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    Yet another Solex tuning question

    Hi everyone. Back consulting the brains trust on another carburettor question. I'm reasonably happy with the Solex I have on the 2.25 petrol in my Series II, but there's still one bugbear I haven't been able to work out.

    On a really sharp throttle application, the kind you might make on a hill start, the engine bogs down and chugs out a bunch of black smoke, like it's running far too rich.

    It's happy at idle, and it starts easy enough (but could be better). And it's superb once moving. The curious part is, once it's made it past the initial 20% of throttle travel, it's happy again. It's almost like the accelerator pump is too aggressive?

    With that hypothesis in mind, I had a look at the shaft and there are a couple of holes on there, so there is a little adjustment. But thinking about how an accelerator pump works, I'd have thought it should be just barely on the stop at idle, in which case it's already adjust correctly. Does anyone have experience adjusting this, or any other ideas about what might be worth looking at?

    I've checked the fuel pressure isn't too high, that the needle is seating correctly, and I vaguely remember checking the float depth but it may have been a while ago.

    Cheers,
    - Will

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    Have you checked the main jet is nice and clean?
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    is the accelerator pump linkage and pump check valve setup correctly?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DieselLSE View Post
    Have you checked the main jet is nice and clean?
    No, I would certainly do that if I pull the carb apart. But I'm hoping not to get to that point :-) That said, wouldn't that be a problem all across the rev range? Or am I oversimplifying?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blknight.aus View Post
    is the accelerator pump linkage and pump check valve setup correctly?
    No idea. Is there a manual somewhere I can read? I don't think it's in the Land Rover workshop manual.

    Here's a photo of the setup, although you probably can't tell just from the picture.

    PXL_20241209_085635871.jpg

    In the photo, it's currently set on the middle hole (of three), I've moved it down to the hole on the very end and in the quick (~1 minute) I had it running, it seemed a little happier. But I'll have to let it warm up and give it a proper drive to be sure.

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    thats your accelerator pump linkage.

    inside the carby (and this is generic info not just solext specific) there is usually a one way valve into the accelerator pump, this closes when the pump has pressure applied to it so fuel can be pumped out the accelerator pumps orifice into the carbies throat.

    IF this fails open you can loose the effect of the pump (fuel flows back into the bowl) as well as have raw fuel dump out the orifice in a near continuous manner.
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    No, you don't have to pull the Solex apart to clean the main jet. It's a 9/16AF (I think, it's been decades since I've done this) brass fixing on the left hand side of the carby. I have a manual here somewhere, I'll take a look and post a pic a bit later. I have visitors.
    2013 D4 expedition equipped
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    See attached pages from a 1963 Workshop Manual. Be careful, ignore the bits about the 2 Litre carby. It's a hi res file, so you can zoom in on the pages. Couldn't scan the pages as it's a bound manual, so had to resort to taking pics on phone and converting them to a pdf.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blknight.aus View Post
    thats your accelerator pump linkage.

    inside the carby (and this is generic info not just solext specific) there is usually a one way valve into the accelerator pump, this closes when the pump has pressure applied to it so fuel can be pumped out the accelerator pumps orifice into the carbies throat.

    IF this fails open you can loose the effect of the pump (fuel flows back into the bowl) as well as have raw fuel dump out the orifice in a near continuous manner.
    Cheers - I found the part on the manual that DieselLSE posted. It was easy to remove/check/reinstall, no issues as far as I could tell. Let air one way but not the other, so no obvious issue. Worth checking though, it's something I can rule out.

    Quote Originally Posted by DieselLSE View Post
    No, you don't have to pull the Solex apart to clean the main jet. It's a 9/16AF (I think, it's been decades since I've done this) brass fixing on the left hand side of the carby. I have a manual here somewhere, I'll take a look and post a pic a bit later. I have visitors.
    Correct - thank you! I pulled it out just now and unfortunately it was clean as a whistle. I say unfortunately because it would've been a real simple diagnosis/fix if it was dirty.

    Quote Originally Posted by DieselLSE View Post
    See attached pages from a 1963 Workshop Manual. Be careful, ignore the bits about the 2 Litre carby. It's a hi res file, so you can zoom in on the pages. Couldn't scan the pages as it's a bound manual, so had to resort to taking pics on phone and converting them to a pdf.
    Cheers, I found these diagrams much clearer than the ones in my copy of the manual. Do you have a part number/publication number/ISBN for your manual? Feels like there's a few versions floating around.

    I'll hold out until the weekend (when I can take on a long run and get it warm) before tackling/adjusting much more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhatIsClocks View Post
    Do you have a part number/publication number/ISBN for your manual?
    No ISBN
    Published by The Rover Company Limited
    Technical Publication No. TP/344/A Part No. 4611 December 1963
    Ist Edition
    Printed by Joseph Wones Limited, West Bromwich, Staffs 36814 (checked UK company records and they are listed as printers in the 1950's and 1960's. The holding company was dissolved in 2015 so you won't have much luck there).
    2013 D4 expedition equipped
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    Minor update: took it out earlier this week, got it nice and warm. It's a lot better now - I think it really was just the accelerator pump needing to be less aggressive. Thanks for the pointers, everyone!

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