ID Help please

[FinnMcCool]

Hello Fellow Series One'rs (not sure I qualify to include myself in the group yet),

I haven't participated in a forum before, so please excuse my idiosyncrasies and indiscretions. I said 'Hi and Sup!' in the intro section a few days ago.

I have recently bought a Series I but have not seen it yet. I bought it from my mates Dad so am comfortable it will be in the condition he said it is in.

Could you please help me to identify it?

What I know:
Mates Dad said it is a 54 86"

Chassis # is 177601332 - being a 9 digit chassis number which I believe places it around 1955/56
Pictures attached show a front radiator panel/guard thingy with the single hole and the small arched holes over the chassis rails which I think places it as a 88" Sorry the 'whole car' photo is bad quality. It is a photo of a photo.

I look forward to your wealth of knowledge and occasional ramblings.

[back_in]

Hi
set your mind at rest
it is not a 1958
somewhat earlier
cheers
Ian

[russellrovers]

hi it looks as if a early 88 inch with 3 apertures in the front panel good luck jim

[dennisS1]

Hi, looks like you are a very lucky new owner congratulations.
It will be a 1955 model 86" RHD CKD 1332 of a great model. I have 177600088 very similar to yours the front panel being the main difference, yours will be steel where mine is Aluminium and with different holes.
Dennis

[FinnMcCool]

Thanks for your thoughts guys. And for the congratulations - I am a little excited

I am hoping it is not an 88" - not that I have anything against them. In fact my first LR was a SIIa 63 88"

The radiator panel is confusing me. Do you think it is off something else like an 88"? Why would it have the inverted T grill over a single central hole. Any idea what should be on this vehicle if this is not the correct one?

As for year - there is a fair bit of disparity in the info around the net.
EG
Land Rover FAQ: Repair & Maintenance - Series - Chassis Numbers by Year says it is a 1956.
Clifton Scientific Text Services, the Netherlands says it is a 1955.

Here are a couple more details I was given:
Engine # 212192 (Looks like it might actually be a part # of some sort)
Body # LRS444
Serial # 86/444

Does any of that mean anything to anyone?

Thanks again.

[russellrovers]

yes the panel could have been used on from a 88 s1 or a 109 s1 would like to check it for you regards jim

[dennisS1]

Don’t see the confusion, It is a 86" and if you look at a Land Rover service or owner’s manual it will state that the serial number range for 1955 86" start at 57660001 and 177600001. As I posted before my 86" is no177600088 and has the AL front but by your number I have seen several with steel fronts.
All s1 from 54 have the inverted T grill regardless of the number of holes.
Dennis

[Col.Coleman]

Sorry Dennis, but you need to have another look

In '54 and '55, the chassis no's first digit referrred to the year. In '56 it changed to the 4th digit.

I have 2 x '55 86", 1 x '56 107" and 1 x '56 109".

A CKD "86 would have the following prefixes

54 - 4766
55 - 5766
56 - 1766

Late '56 went to 88" and 109".

You also have the later bulkhead, with the curved bracing connecting the tunnel section.

Seeing you have a bonnet spare wheel mount, the ali one used to crumble under the weight of a tyre over rough ground and could have been replaced. I have seen plenty of '56's with the steel breakfast panel though.

I have the documents to back this up too. A '57 manual covering 54-57 models with 2 suppplements.

Don't believe Clifton. It couldn't work out a '56 107"

CC

[Col.Coleman]

Here are a couple more details I was given:
Engine # 212192 (Looks like it might actually be a part # of some sort)
Body # LRS444
Serial # 86/444

Does any of that mean anything to anyone?

Thanks again.

Body and serial # is just your PMC assembly no.

Engine # is a casting#

You will find your engine# front left infront of the exhaust manifold next to the coolant inlet pipe. It should be prefix 1706, same with the gearbox and axles.

CC

[dennisS1]

We will need a higher adjudicator.
But I am sticking with what is clearly printed in LR manuals it is in the 1955 model that they changed the numbering. The car may have been built in 56.
Dennis