2.8L TGV Reliability / repairability

[roller]

Hi all looking into buying a 2.8l to replace the 300Tdi in a defender.

Who has one and what issues arise with servicing? is the rare nature of these engines in Australia an issue or are parts as common as the Tdi? (or interchangeable if that became necessary)

do people use these for long outback trips?

should i be able to expect a good few hundred thousand K's of trouble free driving as the engine is new? or is this a bit optimistic, (never owned a new engine before )

finally what’s the consumption like? can i still expect to be better than 10L/100k's?

Really want to hear from those who own one or have driven one/worked on one?

is it as simple as install and enjoy or am i looking at a life of struggling to source parts, explain issues and confused Land Rover mechanics ?

[series2110]

try Bruce davis Motor works in sydney

i am aware that Bruce has been doing a bit with these lately

defenderly

Peter

[uninformed]

mine now has 70'000km on it. Is used for work towing a 1.8t trailer everyday im at work. I had a little trouble with cooling when first installed but a different T/stat and cutting a hole in the guard has fixed this. I have had it serviced by a LR mech, alot of it is 300tdi but some isnt. Main serpentine belt isnt, but an off the shelf on is. I run stock R380. I have had a P gasket replaced becuase it was leaking. I just had to fix the turbo, small part, silly failure (blame Garrett) my fuel eco is about 13-14l/100km with trailer.

dont over fill it with oil

[Casper]

Where are you planning on getting a new one?
I heard they had stopped making them and all the new old stock was depleted?

I may have missed something somewhere thou....

Cheers Casper

[rick130]

I've read that MWM International don't have any crate engines anymore but all components are still available.

[uninformed]

have you considered a Isuzu?

[roller]

I had seen people talking about these being out of production. Im pritty shure i know where to find one, a friend living in the UK is helping me out from that end.

thought about the isuzu but i was put off by the thought that anything could be louder than the Tdi already is.. and half the point of buying a Defender was that it is 400kg lighter than an 80 series Toyota.. Adding a massive lump of isuzu kind of negated this?

is there anyone in Melbourne who has had experience with these? a workshop that has imported or fitted them?

Uninformed, what’s the fuel figures without the trailer? or should i expect to fill up more due to the extra power?

With the over heating do you this upgrading radiator/intercooler thermo fans could be enough? i cannot have heating issues again. been through that and almost lost my 4wd tinkering privileges

[rick130]

The 4BD1T is roughly 140kg heavier than a Tdi or TGV.

Jase, a member here used to import and sell the HS2.8 from Brazil. http://www.aulro.com/afvb/members/jase.html

You could try PM'ing him about fitting as it isn't a straight bolt in, engine mount lugs need drilling/tapping, I think a spacer needs to be machined for the flywheel pilot bearing, etc.

[frantic]

Just to throw a spanner in What about a 2.7/3.0tdv6 from either a disco,rrsport, territory,pug,jag with one of the english conversion kits? As ford is now using them for the territory plenty of parts and people who know how to fix them and they have made conversion kits in the u.k foir the gearbox and the electronics. I'm not sure if its lighter than a tdi .

Diesel ECU Packages
http://www.twinkam.co.uk/online/temp...ces/SC_P38.pdf

So according to the article a tdv6 conversion should cost around $9500-10,000 Aussie dollars and you can do either a 2.7 or 3.0 tdv6.

[uninformed]

I got mine from a mob in Vic, I will try and find details...they were putting them in LR so may have some info. Though their "cut the engine mount in half" method seemed a bit crude. I have no room to mount a full width rad with a intercooler in front. So I run stock. The intercooler is undersized for this engine/turbo in my mind. If you have a/c then that would mean triple stacking full width stuff. How would the airflow be to the rad then??? one problem with cooling and the defender engine bay is the hot air cant get out so well....hence hole/grill in gaurd. engine noise is not the only noise coming from a defender. price up the 2.8 plus everything and price up a good or rebuilt Isuzu plus everything.....you wont kill the later thats for sure (unless you are me)

If you are going the 2.8 and have a 300tdi, I would recommend the short bellhousing kit from ashcroft to move the engine back, then you could fit in full width rads etc.

re the V6, would be very nice but arent the stand alone ecu's about 3000 pound and thats just the computer, NO ENGINE!