Keyless ignition warning ...

[mojo]

So the family all went for a quick trip to the shops the other day. Our 12 week old twins have nodded off in the back, so I jump out with our daughter while the car's running, and the wife hops in the drivers seat and heads off for a 15 minute drive to keep the boys asleep while we do our shopping.

A few minutes later I get a call from the wife ...

"A warning light's come on, do you know what it is?"
"No idea, does it say anything on the screen"
"No, just a warning light"
"Well if the car's driving OK, don't worry. I'll look at it when you pick us up"

A few minutes later another call ...

"You've got the ****ing keys in your pocket!!!"


Oops. She'd pulled over to stop and start the car, to see if the warning went out...

Babies are now awake and screaming, she's breastfeeding them on the side of the road while I wait for a taxi.

I was not in the good books - luckily I was able to remind her of a comment she made to me a few weeks earlier when we first got the car ...

"Why don't you just leave the keys in your pocket when your driving, there's no need to take them out and put them in the centre console ..."

[SBD4]

I'm certain the message "Smart key not found!" would have been displayed on the drivers information panel.

Lucky for you, you had that little gem by her to fall back on! A mistake that will be made only once I am sure.

Let us know when the dog has kicked you out of his house - one of us might be able to find a couch for you

[solmanic]

Had a loan car this week with keyless ignition. This story just adds to the list of reasons why we hated it. We got sick of getting in the car with the key ready, then popping it into the centre console or any other inappropriate storage nook for it to just rattle around during the trip, only to get out and forget the key is still inside. If nothing else, an ignition slot is a perfectly sensible and logical place to store the keys whilst driving. What halfwit genius ever thought keyless ignition was a good idea?!? You've got to get the bloody things out to unlock the car in the first place!

[Tombie]

Once you're familiar with it then it is second nature.

I never take my keys out to unlock the car, you can feel the button without sight.

I get in our D2 now and wonder what do I do with this damn key

As for driving off and not knowing whats happening:

"Smart Key not found" and the warning light both come on the moment the key leaves the confines of the vehicle.

[Tombie]

What halfwit genius ever thought keyless ignition was a good idea?!? You've got to get the bloody things out to unlock the car in the first place!

The one who kept locking keys in the car, or got sick of the lock jamming and not being able to start

[solmanic]

The one who kept locking keys in the car, or got sick of the lock jamming and not being able to start

I can't see how this still happens to anyone. You still need the key fob to lock most cars and fewer and fewer even have keyholes in the handles anymore. And just to make things less than straight forward, some manufacturers have more than just a lock & unlock button. They now have "boot release" or worse still boot open buttons for those people who find it hard to do it manually. This makes it harder to be sure which unlock button you're pressing in your pocket.

The smart key we have still has all the proximity sensing stuff which automatically immobilises the car if the key goes too far away, but you still put it in a slot in the dashboard. You even turn it old school style although it is actually just a start button type action as you don't hold it to crank. For me this is the ideal blend of modern, key elctrickery with simple, traditional actions. And you can never leave the keys in or accidentally walk away with them while the car is going.

Sorry, keyless ignition is just not for me. It seems like the wrong solution to the keys locked in the car/jamming lock problem.

[Tombie]

Hehehe...

So you take the "key" out of your pocket to unlock the car..

And place it in a "slot" (space) in the dash/steering column..

Sound familiar?

Only action that's different is push not turn

Then when you get out and walk off the key is still "in the dash" just like a "real" key...

And a transponder key doesn't rattle... If its the only key - and you aren't supposed to have other keys hanging from an ignition as it causes damage.
Plus the little slot, left of Terrain response is rubber lined so doesn't rattle

I'm use to it now and find it very convenient. And the time the wife did jump in and the key was in my pocket the car warned her of exactly the issue before she drove off...

And the key positions are tactile...
Lock is raised top left, right is unlock and recessed
Lights lower left with pimple, right tailgate pop
Bottom centre is triangle for haz/panic.
I often don't take them out of my pocket for shorter trips, just reach in and click.

Change isn't difficult, it's a matter of adapting... After all, Defenders have keys in an "odd" position!

[scarry]

Sorry guys,i hate the thing,give me a normal key anytime.......

Can't see any advantage in it at all.

But thats me

I drive a company vehicle most of the time with a key which does make it difficult to get used to no key.

[Blknight.aus]

Sounds like the wheel getting re-invented again, Ive had keyless entry and keyless ignition for years now.....

of course on the few occaions Ive left the keys in the vehicle and accidentally managed to lock the door its a simple task to reach in over the top of the door through the missing window frame and pick them up from where ever I left them in the vehicle.

[scarry]

Sounds like the wheel getting re-invented again, Ive had keyless entry and keyless ignition for years now.....

of course on the few occaions Ive left the keys in the vehicle and accidentally managed to lock the door its a simple task to reach in over the top of the door through the missing window frame and pick them up from where ever I left them in the vehicle.

Your just lucky you don't live down our way or you would be carless