Red Engine and series guages

[Phoenix]

Ok i'm trying to get the guages in my landy going.

Currently:

Fuel guage: 1/2 works, faulty sender probably
Speedo: Works fine
Water temp: Not working because the sensor seems to send no signal. (Does work when earthed)
Engine hours: no idea why it doesn't work because I haven't looked closely at it yet.
Charge/discharge: goes to some huge number, havn't found what it is meant to be attached to yet.
Oil temp: not connected to a sensor, and the only one that I can find is attached to the oil pressure light.

So my question is, where are all of the sensors, and why wouldn't the water temp one work (and why does it have 2 prongs on it?).

If you are curious as to the extra guages, I have the army to thank for that and they are mounted in the center of the shelf above the gearshift. Any help would be appreciated.

[fernockulated]

:roll: the best thing would be to put it in the T.H.B., and get a GOOD auto sparky to fix those probs ! I know its not that complicated behind a landy dash ,but unless youv'e got a lot of patience ,get someone who knows what there doing,its worth it in the long run 8)

[harry]

8) hi ferno, sounds like you ain't an eleterkitition, any they don't sound too hard to fix, lets start wif da juice jigger, first you will have to pull the sender out of the tank, then with power off,[cause black landie aint pretty] connect the sender wire to the sender and another wire to earth the body of the sender, connect the power, turn on the ign and move the float arm up and down-- the guage should go to full and empty, if it doesn't go full travel you may have a faulty trans or guage, to check the guage short the sender wire to earth breifly, if the guage goes to full or empty its ok, as long as it moves, tell us the result, and we'll work from there [also sometimes the float [if its a tin one] sinks, give it a little shake to hear if its full of petrol.
the water temp- if it has a sender pull it and connect it up to the wire and another wire to earth it--boil it up in water and watch the gauge, when its really boiling the gauge should tell you that, if its only a light, it should be on.
hourmeter - these are usually just a clock that gets wound up by a little solenoid, then it ticks away for a minute or so till the points close which activates the solenoid and ticks again, usually the points burn out, some times you can dress the points mit a wickle file and it will work again [don't expect it to last too long]
ammeter, you said it moves heaps, its telling you there is a big load some where, dunno, without looking at it, try disconnecting things until it stops having big swings.
oil temp - same as water temp, if the probe has two terminals then one goes to earth
if this goes invalid session i'm gunna spit it.
8) happy sparking, harry

[Phoenix]

Well I have patience, electrical knowledge and little money, so i'm gunna give it a go.

Ferno, i'd love to dump the problems on a sparky, especially with the extra wiring about, but I don't have enough $$$$. Thanks for the hints harry.

Ok,

Fuel guage: I've tested the guage, it works. I'll test the sender and get back to you.

With the Ammeter, it doesn't actually move at all, it can just measure a huge load for a vehicle.

Water temp seems to have two pins, so that may have to have an earth also.

Oil temp would seem to not be connected to the sender, so that may be the problem :roll:

I'll test that and see what we get [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif[/img]

[harry]

8) good start, don't blow nuthin up, i didn't give a warranty, keep us posted 8) harry

[Phoenix]

LOL, as long as i'm careful fith the fuel guage, i'm good 8)

[UncleHo]

Hi Phoenix,
Rocket here(ho chi 003 from REMLR) I can shed a little light on the extra instruments
AMPMETER , probably 100 amp used with the radio generator, should have 2 wires coming off the back of it about 5-6 mm thick trace them , if they just end in the engine bay they can be set up for the holden motor with out to much drama, if one goes to a power source the other is possibly taped off somewhere trace it and then get an auto elect to connect it up for you.

OILTEMP, Ser3 army had 6cyl motors which were fitted with oil coolers, ffr's had oiltemp guages fitted as they had to run the mtrs for battery charging and this cut down the insidence of boiled oil and cooked mtrs (they were a **** of a motor in a Landy) can be connected up to the holden sump, Hint, inlarge your sump capacity by getting another holden sump with resevoir at oposite end to yours and cut and shut take care as to the oil pump pickup, discowhite may be helpful there as he seems to have had veeery quick holden red sixes 8O (8000 the noise :roll: )

WATERTEMP, find a dead six cyl landy motor (shouldn't be hard) and aquire temp sender adapt the sender to the holden mtr and conect sender wire the wire code(colour) at the gauge should be GREENwith a BLUE Tracer the power for the temp and fuel both come off the voltage stabiliser (small rectangular tin thing with 3 terminals in the dash) if this is dickey it would account for fuel gauge error
hope this is of some help
Rocket alias Hochi003

[Phoenix]

G'day Rocket.

Thanks for the hints. My amp meter actually goes to 150A either way, but somehow I don't think that all of that will be used too easily.

As for the sump, I have a Blue sump from a VC I think. THis appears to have a larger capacity.

At the moment i'm still seeing of the sensors that are in the engine are working. IF the aren't, then i'll start organising fresh ones.

I've been warned about the voltage stabiliser before, and at this point I have had no reason to doubt is, however that fuel gauge is still a problem, however I think that is the sender, not the stabiliser.

You might be able to help me with another question. On the firewall behind the dash is a semi transparent blue box with a couple of wires attached, and prongs for other wires. Do you know what this is?

[UncleHo]

Hi Phoenix,
Glad to be of some help,only just getting the hang of this forum thing, so i dont get on often also SHE who must be obeyed hogs the puta. Your ammeter sounds like it was for a 24volt radio setup hence the 150 amp, when hooked up to the holden it will probably only read +or- about 35 or 40, so the needle wont move much, there is a Ser3 FFR at british off road that they are wrecking if the motor is still in it i will requition (relocate) the temp sender if you want it as i have a good working relationship with them as a large percentage of "Aggie" my 68 2a GS came from there, [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif[/img] as for the fuel gauge try running an earth wire from one of the tanksender screws to a known earth point on the chassis, I had to do this on mine (from the sendermounting screw to a fuelline holdown clip :wink: )

As for the blue box not sure on that will check the one at british off road for you if not somebody on the other site may be able to help [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif[/img] by the way have you seen the photos in the gallery of the remlr display at the jeep club swap itis page 4 of the gallery, Incisor had them taken as it was the first outing for his 59 comm recon
regards, Rocket

[UncleHo]

Hey Phoenix
Did you ever get your brake booster for Grover and did you get my reply to your request onthe other site :?: Rocket.