Recovery points and liability.

[streaky]

I was told that Land Rover don't fit recovery points onto any of their cars because of liability issues.
We all know that our cars are fitted with lashing points but are the front lashing points on the D3 & D4 suitable as recovery points?
Surely a decent snatch recovery on a D3 or D4 would damage the monocoque front cross member?
Thoughts and advice please.
The same applies to rear I suppose?

[WhiteD3]

On the D3/4 the rear point is a proper recovery point, being connected to the chassis. The front ring is for winching onto a tilt tray and tie down only. Having said that I've been snatched by the front ring a couple of times given that there's no alternative.

I doubt its a liability issue. More likely cost and design.

[camel_landy]

I was told that Land Rover don't fit recovery points onto any of their cars because of liability issues.

Some people do talk a lot of nonsense! The front & rear recovery points are rated to 2x vehicle weight.

Have a flick through the owners manual as it may well be mentioned there.

M

[Fred Nerk]

We have had a few talks and presentations at our 4WD club on recovery issues.

Generally people agree that there is no such thing as a "rated recovery point". There are standards for shackles etc, but not for recovery points. ARB make a recovery point fitting which apparently has been rated, but they agree that as they have no control over the chassis to which it is fixed there can be no rating of the fitting and vehicle combination. An ARB speaker suggested that this is mainly because many recovery points are "directional". Their strength is greatly reduced when the load is at an angle.

And so you will not find a reference to rated recovery points in any (correctly written or translated) vehicle manual. That said, there are recovery points designed for recovering vehicles but there is no standard and we use them at our own discretion.

D4s have a front and rear recovery point. Just be careful and learn how to use them safely.

[Grumbles]

ARB no longer offer front recovery points on their bull bars and I thought the reason for this exclusion was liability.

This leaves the factory tie down point only but it usually gets removed because it was in the way or is hidden and inaccessible because of the bar.

[discotwinturbo]

Front and rear points are rated to the GCM which I think is about 6.6 tonne.

Brett....

[Geedublya]

ARB no longer offer front recovery points on their bull bars and I thought the reason for this exclusion was liability.

This leaves the factory tie down point only but it usually gets removed because it was in the way or is hidden and inaccessible because of the bar.

What??

The front recovery point remains when a bar is fitted. It is the loop in the center and is easily accessed.

[Mattt]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fufTUpi3FU]Land Rover Discovery 3/ LR3 -Strength-3of6 - YouTube[/ame]

I hope this helps....

[camel_landy]

I hope this helps....

Ah ha!

I was looking for that vid...

M

[WhiteD3]

I hope this helps....

Nice vid but at no stage do they show the connections to the chassis. I suspect they are not using the recovery points as this is a chassis strength demo.