The resurrection of 'pat'

[LoveB]

Alright, as some of you know I have purchased a 1993 Defender 90 with the 2.5 non turbo diesel on here.... I know the rules so heres pics before questions.

first time I saw it in person


loading onto trailer





swapped tow cars back to defender



first drive and it drives upto 80k alright. not really anything on offer above that.




home sweet home



Now the plan is basically restore it and give it to my wife as a daily driver.

[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iiCQY1cC58[/ame]
taking inspiration from the above episode of wheeler dealers...

I want to paint it. spruce up interior and either put an auto V8 or 300tdi auto in it. (wife drives auto)

I suppose first question is regarding the engine... I know the UK defender 90s of that year came out with V8's in them. But as its a personal import (not by me) could I swap a v8 into it without engineering? or I would I need to get it engineered? I imagine if I chose to do a 300tdi swap that I wouldnt need to. But would want somethign quiet and smooth for my wife I suppose.


more below

[LoveB]

good god I cant adjust the size!!!!! lol

anyway second topic, interior and rust issues....

I will just post links below which you can click
http://i.imgur.com/PLdDkjz.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/sBIy3pI.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/2jfZ852.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/lVA51vw.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/klBZqAl.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/8rGj225.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/c6dhQIl.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/yzfbGef.jpg

now whats the best way to tackle this rust? just replace the seam cover??


http://i.imgur.com/G3unafx.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/Sw1kb0E.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/U6XWpi6.jpg

thats mainly it and the worst of it. thats on the outside where the canopy meets the tub. it has similar rust on the inside opposite of where the ones outside is. so 4 spots on the tub.

Bulk head has some bubbles and visible rust on the outer edges just under the windscreen drain. whats the best way to get around that?

I pretty much want to strip the car and send the body panels to be painted in grey. Maybe stornoway gray as my wife wants a similar ish colour to the orkney grey. whats the best way to get it painted? leave body on? but I want interior done too as she said she doesnt want a silver car outside and a red car inside.


or should I strip the panels and send them off to be painted whilst off the vehicle? are these year 90s still as simple as series 1s in terms of getting panels off that I can do it at home and just bring panels to the painter?

the rear cross member is alright. has a few flakes here and there. I might just scrub and use converter if necessary but not really looking at redoing the chassis. maybe just a clean and spray where possible.

rear diff bangs when shifting (when you get shifting right its quiet) I'm guessing thats due to bushes being worn or something?

when driving it sounds ok. probably a little more metally grindy than I would like but I'm comparing it to a 2013 defender. other than that I cant really hear anything over the engine noise. LOL


heater doesnt work so need to look into that. I am also interested in putting an A/c system for it. Would one out of a tdi/td5 defender work?I would need to install the blower under the dash too. can I still get a dash for this even? still has original keys to start it and for doors however doors dont seem to align properly. could be as simple as an alignment as theres no rust so I'll look into saving them.


I'll post more questions here as they cross my mind!!!

[Phil B]

good god I cant adjust the size!!!!! lol

anyway second topic, interior and rust issues....

I will just post links below which you can click
http://i.imgur.com/PLdDkjz.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/sBIy3pI.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/2jfZ852.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/lVA51vw.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/klBZqAl.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/8rGj225.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/c6dhQIl.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/yzfbGef.jpg

now whats the best way to tackle this rust? just replace the seam cover??


http://i.imgur.com/G3unafx.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/Sw1kb0E.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/U6XWpi6.jpg

thats mainly it and the worst of it. thats on the outside where the canopy meets the tub. it has similar rust on the inside opposite of where the ones outside is. so 4 spots on the tub.

Bulk head has some bubbles and visible rust on the outer edges just under the windscreen drain. whats the best way to get around that?

I pretty much want to strip the car and send the body panels to be painted in grey. Maybe stornoway gray as my wife wants a similar ish colour to the orkney grey. whats the best way to get it painted? leave body on? but I want interior done too as she said she doesnt want a silver car outside and a red car inside.


or should I strip the panels and send them off to be painted whilst off the vehicle? are these year 90s still as simple as series 1s in terms of getting panels off that I can do it at home and just bring panels to the painter?

the rear cross member is alright. has a few flakes here and there. I might just scrub and use converter if necessary but not really looking at redoing the chassis. maybe just a clean and spray where possible.

rear diff bangs when shifting (when you get shifting right its quiet) I'm guessing thats due to bushes being worn or something?

when driving it sounds ok. probably a little more metally grindy than I would like but I'm comparing it to a 2013 defender. other than that I cant really hear anything over the engine noise. LOL


heater doesnt work so need to look into that. I am also interested in putting an A/c system for it. Would one out of a tdi/td5 defender work?I would need to install the blower under the dash too. can I still get a dash for this even? still has original keys to start it and for doors however doors dont seem to align properly. could be as simple as an alignment as theres no rust so I'll look into saving them.


I'll post more questions here as they cross my mind!!!

Hi and welcome to Land Rover land !!
Great looking 90 you have and the rust issues are very minor compared to some !!
The holes in the photos all appear to be in the steel tray capping, which is still available new AFAIK and definitely second hand.


My preference with painting is to take panels off and paint them individually and then put them back on. You rightly pointed out it is just like a series in the way it is assembled, just nuts and bolts.
Beware of spraying different batches of parts at different times though. Unless you have a very accurate paint batching system you will get color variations, particularly with grey !! Great color though.


You will find plenty of info on here about the "rear diff bangs". It is more than likely the drive flanges that are designed to wear out first. When they do you will get drivetrain backlash but they are easy and cheap to replace (about $60ea) for the flanges.


As for the ac and heater that is a little more complicated and I would suggest you look at getting her painted and on the road first.
Again there is plenty of info on here. Just do a Google search for Defender air con install or heater repair.


Good luck and please keep going now that you have started this thread.


Regards,

[LoveB]

Awesome. it has rego till the 28th so I'll drive it around till then. not 100% fussed on a/c. sure summer is coming but thats what windows are for hey?

now to decide between v8 and diesel!!


once rego runs out I'll start stripping it apart for paint and clean the chassis up while I'm at it. it'll either be silver or white. I want to put a kahn kit on it down the road.

[Toxic_Avenger]

That vehicle was a steal!
As for the pic size, I find holding the control button and scrolling the mouse wheel works well enough for me!

Give it a red-hot go and keep us updated on the progress!

[Landybitz]

Nice 90 that one.

I was looking at a air con unit for the V8, second hand i was quoted $2800, plus 3 days they said to fit it. And theres different ones depending on what engine you have so they said.

[LoveB]

Good Lord. Unless I find a wrecked county with a/c I suppose. Am I better off just going 300tdi?

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[Dervish]

now whats the best way to tackle this rust? just replace the seam cover??

You have to replace the capping. Having done this, I can tell you you're in for a pig of a time. Here's a walkthrough, it's even on a 90. Being a 90, it'll be easier than a 110; but actually finding a replacement capping to suit the 90 here in Oz might prove tough.

[The ho har's]

Followed this on facebook and here. Wish I was 10 seconds earlier, always wanted a 90. Have an 88 so all is good.

Mrs hh

[rangieman]

Good Lord. Unless I find a wrecked county with a/c I suppose. Am I better off just going 300tdi?

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Yep throw it in the too hard basket and sell it to me
Mate id sell me leftie for that
Well done and good luck with the project