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    New axels with HD flanges?

    Hi All,
    Trying to get some Ashcroft HD flanges fitted to my MY15 Defender. The fronts have gone on OK, but the end flange looks like it is part of the axel on the rears and the whole lot needs to be replaced with a floating type axel. Does this sound right? The upgrade has been recommended on here a lot, but no mention of an axel change.

    Thanks..

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    I stand to be corrected.
    My understanding is the 110 has rear flanges while the 90 does not(all in one setup).
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    My 90 has 4 flanges. I changed mine last weekend with HD ones.

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    my 2010 2.4 90 has flanges and half shafts in rear, have changed rear axels to hytuff hd versions with hytuff hd flanges all round.
    The improvement was really good no driveline slack now its tight as.
    If the rear is one piece on yours then there wouldnt be much point changing it, but I dont think LR would have changed something like that.

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    Pre TDCi (puma) Defender 90 models had the axle & drive flange as one (the same as a Discovery 1 rear).

    Later TDCi Defender 90 models have the same separate axle/drive flange set up as a 110/130

    Regardless of the set up, both are still fully floating axles, as in the axle does not bare the load of the vehicle.

    Regards
    Daz

    P.S if you do a search here, you will find I also recommend changing the rear axles on the TDCi (puma) Defender models when you do the drive flanges as the hardness of the axle itself is very low on the Rockwell hardness scale when compared to axles of old.
    Last edited by DazzaTD5; 12th February 2016 at 11:09 AM. Reason: more info

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    Quote Originally Posted by DazzaTD5 View Post
    Pre TDCi (puma) Defender 90 models had the axle & drive flange as one (the same as a Discovery 1 rear).

    Later TDCi Defender 90 models have the same separate axle/drive flange set up as a 110/130

    Regardless of the set up, both are still fully floating axles, as in the axle does not bare the load of the vehicle.

    Regards
    Daz

    P.S if you do a search here, you will find I also recommend changing the rear axles on the TDCi (puma) Defender models when you do the drive flanges as the hardness of the axle itself is very low on the Rockwell hardness scale when compared to axles of old.
    G'day Dazza,
    As far as I am aware all 300Tdi' 90' came with the seperate drive flanges..
    I think also that very late 200Tdi 90's also came with the seperate flanges,
    But definitely (as far as I am aware) with the introduction of the MA chassis (300Tdi) the flanges were the seperate ones.

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    Is this the "one piece" axle in question?


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    G day Beery,
    Your picture is I think of a 24 spline (short side?) one peice axle, it is a thin flange version.
    The axles also came in thicker flange versions.
    In the pic attached is the thicker flange axle version, (these ones 10 spline).
    Mike.
    Last edited by Dopey; 29th December 2016 at 03:37 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 90@ View Post
    G'day Dazza,
    As far as I am aware all 300Tdi' 90' came with the seperate drive flanges..
    I think also that very late 200Tdi 90's also came with the seperate flanges,
    But definitely (as far as I am aware) with the introduction of the MA chassis (300Tdi) the flanges were the seperate ones.
    *I could well stand corrected.
    *I'm sure the odd 90 TD5 I've had in was one piece drive flange/axle on rear.
    *I've not actually ever had in a 200/300tdi 90.
    *The numerous manuals both on disk and book show both but with little to no reference as to application.
    *Lots of pics online of 90 (but County models) with seperate drive flange/axle on rear.
    *Lots of other pics online of 90 models with either.
    *I suppose all the 90 owners on AULRO could go have a look at tell us what they have and what model it is...

    *Honestly.... who know

    Regards
    Daz

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beery View Post
    Is this the "one piece" axle in question?

    Yes that is a pic of the one piece drive flange/axle.

    *Both the one piece AND the seperate drive flange/axle set-up came in a thin or thick flange.

    Regards
    Daz

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