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    Oh no, is this a sign of things to come

    Just released info on 2017 RRS, tells this story ".....2.0-l Ingenium diesel engine, the first four-cylinder diesel engine in a full-sized Land Rover. It produces 240 hp (179 kW) and 500 Nm (369 lb-ft)......"

    Thats backward from where we are now with the D4 and a long way back from the Aust spec RRS 225kW and 700 N.m.

    If that is the D5 engine it'a all a bit of a worry really for those of us who tow.........

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    I remember it being stated that the bottom spec engine will be this 2.0 but there will be a 3.0 as well for higher spec
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    Some would say it's a step forward environmentally to go to a smaller engine. ...Full-sized Defender has had a four cylinder engine most of its life and at half of these figures.
    While I agree that for towing bigger is better. How much bigger is necessary is the question.

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    As an interesting comparison, Land Rover's first four cylinder diesel produced just 51HP from 2.0litres. And as for 'full size' - it was available on the 109.

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    In the detail you'll see that the RRS weighs in a lot less than it used to so a comparison of old to new is not really valid.

    Quote Originally Posted by PeterJ View Post
    Just released info on 2017 RRS, tells this story ".....2.0-l Ingenium diesel engine, the first four-cylinder diesel engine in a full-sized Land Rover. It produces 240 hp (179 kW) and 500 Nm (369 lb-ft)......"

    Thats backward from where we are now with the D4 and a long way back from the Aust spec RRS 225kW and 700 N.m.

    If that is the D5 engine it'a all a bit of a worry really for those of us who tow.........

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    Why worry? Do you seriously think that Land Rover would kill off one of the biggest sectors for it's vehicles?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grentarc View Post
    I remember it being stated that the bottom spec engine will be this 2.0 but there will be a 3.0 as well for higher spec
    As indicated in this article

    https://practicalmotoring.com.au/car...d-2-0l-diesel/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Narangga View Post
    I knew I read it somewhere
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grentarc View Post
    I knew I read it somewhere
    Me too - I had to go search for it
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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterJ View Post
    Just released info on 2017 RRS, tells this story ".....2.0-l Ingenium diesel engine, the first four-cylinder diesel engine in a full-sized Land Rover. It produces 240 hp (179 kW) and 500 Nm (369 lb-ft)......"

    Thats backward from where we are now with the D4 and a long way back from the Aust spec RRS 225kW and 700 N.m.

    If that is the D5 engine it'a all a bit of a worry really for those of us who tow.........
    You are comparing a future bottom spec engine with current top spec engines.

    The current 3.0TDV6 in the D4 is 155Kw/520Nm (the 2.7 was only 140/440), I think with the expected weight loss in the D5, the 2L Inginum will be putting up a good fight.

    Land Rover have been pushing more performance out of all their new vehicles (on and off road), no reason why this should be any different.
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