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    Steering Relay oil

    I am trying to get some oil into the steering relay of my 1963 88" , Matilda. I have removed the front and rear bolts on the top and the one nearest the radiator underneath. Nothing came out and so far I think I have managed to get 5 ml into it in 24 hrs. Now I know it is supposed to be slow going but am I missing something? Have I removed the wrong lower bolt and it is full?

    Any ideas/help appreciated, and I thank you in advance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nickm View Post
    I am trying to get some oil into the steering relay of my 1963 88" , Matilda. I have removed the front and rear bolts on the top and the one nearest the radiator underneath. Nothing came out and so far I think I have managed to get 5 ml into it in 24 hrs. Now I know it is supposed to be slow going but am I missing something? Have I removed the wrong lower bolt and it is full?

    Any ideas/help appreciated, and I thank you in advance.
    You shouldn't have to remove any bolts from the bottom. I filled mine with an oil can through one of the bolts on the top,

    Cheers Charlie

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    I find a syringe comes in handy for this job.
    Also warming the oil a touch by sitting your container in a pot of warm water can make it flow better.

    Cheers, Mick.
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    Front top bolt, rear top bolt syringe it in as fast as I like.

    Then wait for it to run out the bottom

    I'll fix that seal soon I promise.

    BTW we have a Matilda too

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    I left the bottom bolt out and so far nothing has run out, can't remove other bottom bolts without removing arm. Is the drain the one nearest radiator as I have read elsewhere? I am using a syringe and fine tubing but does not go in, I will try heating the oil as well.


    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by nickm View Post
    I left the bottom bolt out and so far nothing has run out, can't remove other bottom bolts without removing arm. Is the drain the one nearest radiator as I have read elsewhere? I am using a syringe and fine tubing but does not go in, I will try heating the oil as well.


    Thanks
    The oil has to go in through the gap between the two halves of the split Tufnol bush, removing a second top bolt sometimes helps to let air out as the oil goes in.
    You may find that someone in the past has pumped it full of grease so the oil won't flow past. It could also be a buildup of crud in the joint between the two halves of the bush.

    If you remove the arm (undo & remove bolt & tap a screwdriver into the split to open the arm slightly to remove) it's easy to remove the endcap but you'll need a new gasket and might as well put a seal in at the same time.

    I removed the bottom cap on my Series I because the oil fell out and just replaced the gasket & seal (must get round to replacing the top seal one day.......)




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    Try this.
    The bottom bolts arent a drain its usually the seal that lets the oil out.

    Cheers Rod

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    Quote Originally Posted by 67hardtop View Post
    The bottom bolts arent a drain its usually the seal that lets the oil out.

    Cheers Rod
    With all the ones I've seen one of the lower bolts is a drain but I can never remember which one. There is a section machined out of the bore so that one of the lower bolts breaks into it to allow draining.

    Found a picture but it doesn't help determine which bolt it is......An indentation is in the casting rather than machined.




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    Well if it is then push a thin wire up all the holes and u can find out which one it is coz it will go in further.

    Cheers Rod

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    Thanks people, given me something to go on with.
    I'm sure it wouldn't be half as fun if it was easy............

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