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    Is my gearbox failing or engine issue?

    Hi all,

    reversing up my driveway that has a 7-10 degree slope so was going uphill in reverse. Car moved back as normal for about 3 feet and than stopped as if I needed more revs to keep the momentum going but as I pushed in the accelerator the engine revs didn’t increase at all. Car just sat there. I pushed the accelerator in about half way and the engine just didn’t respond with the car standing still.

    Looking at the rear window I noticed a reasonable amount of whitish smoke. I tried again and the car eventually got up to the top after 3 attempts but again minimal revs and just crawled up. It didnt feel like anything was slipping between engine and gearbox but that’s an assumption.Once in forward gear the car felt better and then a couple of minutes later hard acceleration and gear changes were normal.

    Got home and stopped at the steepest part of my driveway and reversed up backwards uphill and the car reversed fine. WTF is going on?

    gear box oil change at 80K km’s and there were no warnings or messages on the dash, 2.7L MY2011

    Anyone have a similar experience or have any input would be greatly appreciated. Better sell a kidney, this is sounding expensive

    Cheers
    Mike

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    Quote Originally Posted by mike7 View Post
    Hi all,

    reversing up my driveway that has a 7-10 degree slope so was going uphill in reverse. Car moved back as normal for about 3 feet and than stopped as if I needed more revs to keep the momentum going but as I pushed in the accelerator the engine revs didn’t increase at all. Car just sat there. I pushed the accelerator in about half way and the engine just didn’t respond with the car standing still.

    Looking at the rear window I noticed a reasonable amount of whitish smoke. I tried again and the car eventually got up to the top after 3 attempts but again minimal revs and just crawled up. It didnt feel like anything was slipping between engine and gearbox but that’s an assumption.Once in forward gear the car felt better and then a couple of minutes later hard acceleration and gear changes were normal.

    Got home and stopped at the steepest part of my driveway and reversed up backwards uphill and the car reversed fine. WTF is going on?

    gear box oil change at 80K km’s and there were no warnings or messages on the dash, 2.7L MY2011

    Anyone have a similar experience or have any input would be greatly appreciated. Better sell a kidney, this is sounding expensive



    Cheers
    Mike
    A faulty brake light switch will cause tranny to select neutral.
    Happened to me.
    Suggest you replace it anyway as cost is only around $30
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    It could be due to a faulty brake light switch.

    Edit - I'm too slow!
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    Ok. For those who say brake light switch - when I was doing some work on the car, I pressed the brake and accelerator to try and stall up the engine on the box. It didn’t work and nothing happened if I remember correctly - the car knew I was pressing the brake. Of note though, I logged into the IID and received a logged alert/fault for something along the lines of “Accelerator and Brake simultaneously activated.“

    So one would say if the brake light switch is an issue (and staying on) then this fault should be logged.
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    The brake light switch has 2 sets of contacts. My experience is that if 1 set is burnt making poor contact then mixed signals can be received,
    whereupon the engine produces very little power.
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    Ok, after reading what you guys have said about brake lights I’ve had a look and the leftt brake light lens cover is cracked just above the indicator which has caused the entire brake light “chamber” to fill with water. I could only just make it out as the whole area was filled with water so no demarcation line. Never noticed the cracked lens

    the brake lamp is literally under water so Ill empty it out and dry and see what happens. I’m assuming this might have something to do with my issue?

    Thanks for your responses, I’ll let you know what happens.

    Mike

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    Is my gearbox failing or engine issue?

    Quote Originally Posted by mike7 View Post
    Ok, after reading what you guys have said about brake lights I’ve had a look and the leftt brake light lens cover is cracked just above the indicator which has caused the entire brake light “chamber” to fill with water. I could only just make it out as the whole area was filled with water so no demarcation line. Never noticed the cracked lens

    the brake lamp is literally under water so Ill empty it out and dry and see what happens. I’m assuming this might have something to do with my issue?

    Thanks for your responses, I’ll let you know what happens.

    Mike
    Make sure you refill with LR approved brake light fluid

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoJeffster View Post
    Ok. For those who say brake light switch - when I was doing some work on the car, I pressed the brake and accelerator to try and stall up the engine on the box. It didn’t work and nothing happened if I remember correctly - the car knew I was pressing the brake. Of note though, I logged into the IID and received a logged alert/fault for something along the lines of “Accelerator and Brake simultaneously activated.“

    So one would say if the brake light switch is an issue (and staying on) then this fault should be logged.

    Mine never logged a fault 'cos when I put a Scanguage 11 on it several months ago and after the switch fault, my car showed that no faults at all had occurred.
    Before: Ser 2a LWB, Ser 3 S/W, 1979 RR 2 door, 1981 LR Stage 1 V8 (new), 1985 LR 110 V8 County (new), 2009 RRS TDV8
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    Quote Originally Posted by PerthDisco View Post
    Make sure you refill with LR approved brake light fluid
    Only available from selected LR dealers when you have reached "Unobtainium" service level, the one above "WTFhowmuchwasthat". RRP A$120 for 100ml flask. Unicorn horn stopper is extra.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Discodicky View Post
    A faulty brake light switch will cause tranny to select neutral.
    Happened to me.
    Suggest you replace it anyway as cost is only around $30
    Doesnt explain the white smoke though. Indicates unburnt fuel.

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