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16th June 2010, 04:51 PM
#1
3.5 efi vs 3.9 efi
Okay,
I might be a little early on this matter but if I do have a slipped liner I was thinking of getting a complete motor from Triumph Rovers in Adelaide. a 3.9efi for $1950 or 3.5efi for $1390. I know 3.9 has more power but I like the fact that the 3.5 wont suffer with the liner issue, and seems to be a stronger block. Will the 3.5 efi be a straight swap in the 93 Range Rover? Also I have the unichip, I guess it would have to be recalibrated?
cheers
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16th June 2010, 05:17 PM
#2
Hello Mild,
The 3.5 isn't really a stronger block rather the material that was between the liners on large capacity engines is thinner. There were a number of different castings over the years so a 3.5 is different to a 3.9 which is different to a 4.6 and so on.
In terms of block rigidity, the latter engines such as the 3.9 are stiffer. Retention of the main bearing caps is also better although in a standard there is nothing really wrong with the cap retention in a 3.5 either.
If I was going to buy a brand new engine with fuel injection, I guess the 3.5 would be the safest bet. If the engine was using a seasoned block fitted with top hat liners, then the 3.9 would be the one as there are no issues once the top hat liners have been fitted.
I take it that your current engine is a 3.9? The 3.5 has less power and torque, and likely will use more fuel given that it will be working harder. The best bet I feel is a seasoned block with top hat liners and the rest built on that.
Ron.
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16th June 2010, 06:02 PM
#3
Ill make an assumption
The 93 Range Rover isn't a bush basher so i would be more inclined to get a reco 3.9
More power
T.R.Spares New, Reconditioned & Second Hand Spare Parts
and if i remember right they do the short motor reco for around 2200
I just upgraded the engine in my Discovery from 3.5 to 3.9 and its a huge difference
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16th June 2010, 06:20 PM
#4
yeah, a 3.9 which was fully rebuilt 10000km ago but was diagnosed 4500km ago as having a slipped liner. I still have to prove it when I take the heads off though. having the block top hat lined sounds expensive but I'd have a nice motor
The 3.5 efi would be a cheap quick alternative. Are any of the parts from the 3.9 compatible with the 3.5? mmmmm.
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16th June 2010, 06:26 PM
#5
Almost everything that bolts on the outside of the motor is the same
The most obvious difference is the timing cover serpentine or non serpentine
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16th June 2010, 06:29 PM
#6
Steve, I was actually sort of turning it in to a bush basher, just a weekend vehicle/camping. I now think I should have bought an early 2 door, without much of the prince of darkness that I've heard so much about lol.
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16th June 2010, 06:39 PM
#7
see, even If I could get that one liner pinned just by taking the sump off maybe? It could have a cracked liner though. But as someone said once before, you would get the lot done. But full removal of motor/strip would have to be done
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16th June 2010, 06:49 PM
#8
I don't know if that's possible
If the block is stuffed there's a couple of motors in the market section for sale just rebuild one of them
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16th June 2010, 07:18 PM
#9
Definitly some food for thought, thanks
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17th June 2010, 02:49 PM
#10
A bit off topic, but if the 4.6 is top hatted, is that the end of problems?
What is a brand new 4.6 top hatted block worth?
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