Thread: D1 diesel engine conversion options?

If I was going to do what you are thinking I would go for the 2.8 TDI.

There is a mob somewhere that make a 2.8 based on the 300 tdi engine. They also got rid of the timing belt and used gears instead.

Dave.

If you are not going to be doing the engine swap yourself... I would guess you will be better off buying say a '98 300tdi with auto - from the city (Bris/Syd) where prices are more competitive give it a quick once over then drive it to Derby, swap all your goodies across and then sell the v8.

To go the engine swap youll be wanting both a good 300tdi and ZF to match as the V8 ZF is not the best unit to use with the 300tdi... If the v8 was dead and the current gearbox needing a re-build well then you may get ahead on a refurb.

Whats actually wrong with the V8. Maybe a refresh and then buy a long range tank. $10k buys a lot of fuel? Say a difference of 10L/100 between tdi and v8 - you wont break even until 500,000km?

Steve

Originally Posted by Mr Whippy

If I was going to do what you are thinking I would go for the 2.8 TDI.

There is a mob somewhere that make a 2.8 based on the 300 tdi engine. They also got rid of the timing belt and used gears instead.

Dave.

Err, sort of.

MWM International in Brazil made the HS2.8TGV and 2.8WS, the TGV uses a variable vane turbo and is the pick of the two. They are a bored and stroked Tdi and were fitted to the South American Ford Ranger.
More low speed torque, better response.

They also addressed the problems with block and head cooling (and AFAIK all the current 300Tdi heads are these ones anyway)

They still use a timing belt and are now superseded.
MWM also built the 300Tdi under licence, and supplied Land Rover with that engine when production was changed to Brazil until production stopped about 12-18 months ago.
The 300Tdi was still used in third world markets until recently, or areas that didn't specify the latest Euro III or IV emission specs.

Last numbers i saw you'd be looking at somewhere between $9,500 and $11,500 for a new engine and conversion kit, and budget for some extra machining too.
As roverrescue said, a 300Tdi would be an easier bet.

Zeus in the UK made a gear conversion to replace the timing belt in a 300Tdi, but they are heavy and they fail.
In a word, they are .

What would the Disco fetch in Derby?

I know when my daughter was looking, cars were expensive up there so we drove our 300Tdi D1 to Derby for her (she was a nurse at the hospital).

I also know what you mean that no one will work on them. I even asked the ex-LR mechanic at one of the spare parts places and he said no.

If it needed service, there was a bloke in Broome who worked on them.

More thinking aloud than anything. Ron, my Disco would be worth more up here than back in Perth, but it is a small market and I may not be able to find a buyer in any case. Steve, I am not 100% sure what is wrong with the engine ATM, but from the limited diagnostics that I have been able to access, and from the work already done to it, I think it may need a top end rebuild. I also have already built and fitted long range tanks and I have 2 LPG tanks also. It still doesn't equate to much range, especially when towing an off road van. I could look at buying a 300tdi and swapping everything over, but with all the custom work I have done to the car over the last 5 years, I dread to think about the time involved with doing this. Also I am after something that will have a marked improvement in torque over what I already have. AFAIK this will not be the case with the 300tdi. I thought I'd just see if there were any other options out there, and if so, what kind of money I would be looking at. Thanks for the answers, keep them coming.
Cheers
Glen

The International Powerstroke 2.8l TGV, does anyone know where to get one of these in australia? 2nd hand preferably...
Cheers...

Originally Posted by Mr Whippy

If I was going to do what you are thinking I would go for the 2.8 TDI.

There is a mob somewhere that make a 2.8 based on the 300 tdi engine. They also got rid of the timing belt and used gears instead.

Dave.

Hi Dave, do you know who in OZ would have the International Powerstroke 2.8l TGV?

Given that the 2.8 was never sold in a vehicle in Aust, only a few engines were brought in, they are no longer made and spares are as rare as hens teeth - would this engine be a good option?

Surely the most cost effective - and easiest solution is a 300 Tdi and tweak it up a bit with things like bigger intercooler and fuel pump work etc.

Garry