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    Hi

    I was thinking about one of these.

    Option Audio - Incar Entertainment, Sub Woofers, Speakers, LCD Screens

    they also have them without the GPS and as a clip on to go over your existing mirror.

    Matt

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    I put in a reversing camera and it is wired to be on all the time.
    I just got one of those cheaper Swann ones from Dick Smith, only a 2.5 inch screen. Got sick of backing into things.
    I mounted the screen down on the centre console, by the gearstick. It does not cause any distraction issues down there and is OK for quick glances to check.
    Screen is big enough to check for obstacles and kids -you don't need super high def big screen for that. Also great for reversing a trailer, and keeping an eye on it when travelling( for stuff coming loose etc )
    Reversing cameras are normally very wide angle lenses so not a great substitute for a rear view mirror.
    BTW don't bother with the wireless ones, too much inteference from car ECUs etc. I had the wireless version and took it back for a wired one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by THE BOOGER View Post
    general rule in nsw is if they are in your line of sight they obscure you vision thats why they have voice commands your not supposed to look at them
    rubbish. I am tall, for example, and my view of the road is not affected by my GPS - just a bit of the bonnet i can't see. I think I'd be able to make a succesful argument on that basis - in any event I wouldn't worry as I have NEVER heard of anyone having been booked for having a GPS in place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by THE BOOGER View Post
    check the fine print on your gps they say check your states road rules regards where you can set them up your are not allowed to have them in drivers line of sight in nsw yes it does befeat the purpose but the police and other emergency services set them up in the same place doesnt make them legal if they want to book you
    THIS is the fine print in NSW:

    299 Television receivers and visual display units in motor vehicles

    (1) A driver must not drive a motor vehicle that has a television receiver or visual display unit in or on the vehicle operating while the vehicle is moving, or is stationary but not parked, if any part of the image on the screen:

    (a) is visible to the driver from the normal driving position, or

    (b) is likely to distract another driver.

    Maximum penalty: 20 penalty units.

    Note. Motor vehicle and park are defined in the Dictionary, and vehicle is defined in rule 15.

    (2) This rule does not apply to the driver if:

    (a) the driver is driving a bus and the visual display unit is, or displays, a destination sign or other bus sign, or

    (b) the visual display unit is, or is part of, a driver’s aid, or

    (c) the driver or vehicle is exempt from this rule under another law of this jurisdiction.

    Examples of driver’s aids.

    1 Closed-circuit television security cameras.

    2 Dispatch systems.

    3 Navigational or intelligent highway and vehicle system equipment.

    4 Rearview screens.

    5 Ticket-issuing machines.

    6 Vehicle monitoring devices.

    Note. Bus is defined in the Dictionary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VladTepes View Post
    rubbish. I am tall, for example, and my view of the road is not affected by my GPS - just a bit of the bonnet i can't see. I think I'd be able to make a succesful argument on that basis - in any event I wouldn't worry as I have NEVER heard of anyone having been booked for having a GPS in place.
    Someone from Qld was having a sook a while back on here about being booked for having a GPS attached to his windscreen while driving.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VladTepes View Post
    rubbish. I am tall, for example, and my view of the road is not affected by my GPS - just a bit of the bonnet i can't see. I think I'd be able to make a succesful argument on that basis - in any event I wouldn't worry as I have NEVER heard of anyone having been booked for having a GPS in place.
    I don't think you could. THe rules set out a standard for the drivers eye height. It is worked out with the seat fully rearward and using some 95th percentile height figures (I think).

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    ... almost booked.

    But the Qld situation is not as black-and-white as all that (and it related to windscreen obstruction, not GPS display screen in view).

    I can't find a regulation behind this (help appreciated) but the Qld Transport modification book says:

    No material or other object is to be located on the
    windscreen or windows which will interfere with the
    driver’s vision.

    I would think that's pretty clear - if it doesn't interfere with the drivers vision (location of deemed eyepoint in the earlier thread) then there's no problem. On a Defender, the bottom of the windscreen only shows you the bonnet anyway, so no harm, no foul.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scrambler View Post

    No material or other object is to be located on the
    windscreen or windows which will interfere with the
    driver’s vision.
    A pair of fluffy dice hanging from the rear vision mirror would fit into that category...I wonder how many transgressors have been booked for that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by scrambler View Post


    (2) This rule does not apply to the driver if:



    (b) the visual display unit is, or is part of, a driver’s aid, or


    Examples of driver’s aids.


    4 Rearview screens.


    Note. Bus is defined in the Dictionary.

    Given you're in NSW and going on the post above I'd say you're fine.

    I've got one that has the display in the mirror. I had it wired so I turn it on when I wont it and off when I don't.

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    I fitted a cheap ebay rear view camera to the Defender.

    I found the screens did not last long when left on for long periods of time. ie: won't last a year.

    The rear view screen is wide angle, so you can't see vehicles unless they're close, or have their headlights on, so mirrors are still essential. Nevertheless, it gives you a better appreciation of everything about you. At night the clarity changes depending on the position / angle of streetlights, so you get a kind of rhythmic movement as you drive along a road with street lights.

    Sharp shadows and sun glare affect image clarity too.

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