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    Suggestions for the best battery box?

    Hi Folks, I’m in the midst of producing a new battery box and while it’s close to being finished, I’m after ideas on what people what a battery box to do and what options they would like supplied with them.

    I don’t care how extreme the ideas may be, you never know where they may lead.

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    A two can cooler built into the lid?

    hey, how about a 100W inverter for the shaver?

    A coffe maker!

    1W led inspection lamp on a curly cord.

    Fill it with LiFePO4 batteries

    Bluetooth link for remote monitoring

    A thumping big magnet underneath so it won't move from where it's put

    Electric fence energiser connected to the handle so the rat who tries to nick it gets tole

    Operates from your car's remote fob.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bee utey View Post
    Bluetooth link for remote monitoring
    Hi bee utey, your Bluetooth suggestion is not that off beat.

    16 years ago Winnebago in Australia came to me with a problem.

    They had this huge heavy ( 20kg ) power distribution “BOX” that was causing them a few problems, and while the manufacturer of the “BOX” would service the “BOX” under warranty, they would not pay the freight for delivering and returning to the customer.

    Winnebago asked if I could make a more reliable “BOX” to cut warranty costs.

    After some R&D, I came up with a totally different set up that had the power distribution broken up it individual components instead on a single 20KG “BOX”.

    I then for the next 15 years supplied them with a set of AC and DC display and distribution panels, each of which were small and light enough that should they need servicing, you could simply put them in a 3kg post satchel and away they went for servicing.

    About 8 years ago, I suggested that these panels could be used to do a lot more and display additional information and while they first wanted to go for a new panel, they then charged there mind then about 6 years ago they changed their mind and I got back into the development and no soon had I set up a newer version, they changed their minds again.

    4 years ago, and the same cycle of indecision only this time I spat the dummy and shelved the whole project.

    What I am leading up to was one of the features of these new panels was a Bluetooth interface and not just for monitoring.

    The Bluetooth interface was developed and was still in the testing stage, was set up so that ( 1 ), the owner could be notified via their phone, if they were within about 100mts of the motor home, if say there was a problem with either the cranking battery and/or house batteries, or if the motor home was being tampered with.

    ( 2 ), If the owner had an electrical problem with their motor home, providing they were in mobile phone coverage, they could place their phone on the table in their motor home and dial up the manufacturer, who would then give them a code to enter into the phone which would then connect the manufacturer with my panel’s electrical monitoring and they could see if they could sort out what was wrong.

    This all got shelved and another part of the project was the development of electronic 12v circuit breakers.

    These are going to be added to a much later version of the new battery box.

    These electronic 12v circuit breakers will replace fuses and/or circuit breakers on all 12v circuits.

    Each circuit can be programmed to have a trip current from 1 amp to 250 amps and a number of trip curves so they can be used for just about every type of 12v application.

    The info can also be use for a range of displays to keep the user up to date with the state of their batteries.

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    A built in power takeoff for accessories like spotlights etc with a fuse and relay outputs for say 8-10 accessories and a built in 150A battery changeover and a really cool wireless dash monitor!!!!

    Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesssssssssssssssssssseeeeeeee!! !!!!!!


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    I think it should have the ability to make an espresso.
    It's not broken. It's "Carbon Neutral".


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    Vlad just for you, there will be an unrestricted ( no fuse or circuit breaker ) 50 amp Anderson plug which is intended to allow for Daisy Chaining of additional batteries.

    So if you want to expand you system, this will mean no more than an additional battery in an other battery box.

    This same output is also designed to be used for Emergency Jump Starts and in your case Vlad, you could simply fit an Anderson plug to a decent sized inverter and then you're set to run your Espresso, but be warned, there will be a line up of others expecting their morning cuppu.

    LOVEMYRANGIE, I am in the process of delivering a new product to one of my wholesale customers. The technology developed for this product will in the near future be expanded to do just what your after, a wireless remote battery monitoring system.

    I’ll post more info on this in the months to come.

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    tie down points for ratchet straps on the ends, as well as a groove in the lid for a strap to go over the top like some toolboxes have.

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    Oooh oooh oooh!!!!

    And provision to mount a Provent on the side!!!! Most important!!!
    I'm gonna have to move mine as at present the Provent is in it's spot.

    Cheers

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    Maybe a provision to attach a charger...

    Thinking of the uses in my boat. I currently have to disconnect the terminals, (start / charge, ignition, direct power accessories) then connect the battery charger. If it was possible to electrically isolate the outputs, but still have an input connected, it would make life so much easier.

    Oh, and lots of external connections...

    Some way of securing the battery inside the box, as well as the box itself, would be great.

    And, as a last thought, maybe a simple charge state indicator.

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    Hi Basil, the current set up is a as posted earlier, a 50 amp Anderson plug input.

    Just to elaborate more about the operation of this input.

    You can run a cable from the battery box to a cranking battery ( via a 50 circuit breaker at the cranking battery ).

    If the battery box is going to be the only auxiliary battery in the vehicle, then no isolator is needed in the host vehicle as there is a 90 amps isolator in the battery box and the output of the isolator is then connected to the battery box’s battery terminals.

    The other 50 amp Anderson plug comes direct from the battery box’s battery terminals.

    Now you could connect a battery charger, via a 50 amp Anderson plug.

    BUT

    There will be 5 outputs. 4 coming from a 30 amp low battery shutdown isolator.

    The 5th output/input is via a second 30 amp low battery shutdown isolator that is user programable so that it will act as a separate 30 amp output or as a basic 30 amp solar regulated input.

    In other words this 5th circuit can be used to feed unregulated solar power into the battery box and this input, when selected as a solar regulator, will work as a simple but totally safe solar regulated input, removing to costly need for an independent solar regulator.

    This same input can also be used for a dedicated battery charger input.

    Finally, the box will have a dual coloured LED ( Red-Green ) display that will indicate state of battery charge based a number of increments showing the battery is FULLY CHARGED, plus state of discharge based on 4 stages 100-75%, 75-50%, 50-25% and 25-0% and an indication if the auxiliary battery is in a low ( unusable ) state of charge.

    The 4 stage discharge indicator is based on a battery’s usable amount not the battery’s total Amp Hours, in other words depending on the type battery ( user selectable ), if you have a 100 Ah flooded wet cell battery, the display will indicate the mount of usable power, say at 50%, means you have used about 25-30 amperes of the 50-60 amperes available from a 100 Ah battery.

    This indicator will also indicate if you have set up for SHARED mode, ( shearing accessories power with the cranking battery ) or IGNITION mode ( all accessories power coming from the auxiliary battery once the motor is turned off ).

    The outputs will shutdown at a low voltage level to protect against damaging the auxiliary battery from over discharging.

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