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    Best diesel conversion for a Series 3

    So I was wondering what would be the best desiel engine to put in a series 3, or better still what engines even fit. Obviously there are the landrover engines, and my thoughts are that the best optino is a 200tdi, with 5 speed box mated to a series transfer case and perhaps disco diff centres. But perhaps there are nissan diesels, or toyotas or some other brand that can easily slip in to provide a good option. Woudl a TD5 fit? maybe to tall and crazy.

    I assume that almost anythign is possible, but some will just be serious cost. Ideally I would want the diesel to slip in without impact on the external/interior look of the car. My 6cly landy dreams of being a diesel.

    Would the running gear from disco swap straight in (with lots of work)? would the atuo trans fit?

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    almost anythings doable with the most common repower from other landies being first and foremost a detuned tdi 200 and then retrofitting the tdiX00 with its matching box and tcase then getting the front axles modded to take CVs most people try for a stage one front end.
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    As Dave says, almost anything is possible. However, some of the factors to take into account-

    1. While the Series transfer case is likely to withstand most engines, the same cannot be said about the gearbox, but any change to a different gearbox tends to get quite expensive to mate it to the transfer case, and is likely to mean moving the transfer case position, with changes to prop shafts, chassis cross members and possibly bodywork. And if it is a swb, then there is not a lot of room to move the box back before the rear prop shaft gets too short. To fit gearbox plus transfer case from a newer Landrover has the added problem that they are all full time four wheel drive, so you need to fit CV joints in the front, and the whole exercise becomes a whole lot more than just a new engine. This strongly suggests that unless you want to spend a lot of time and money, then you need to restrict yourself to a modest increase in power.

    2. The advantage of the 200Tdi is that the engine is a development of the four cylinder Landrover engine, and hence is pretty much a drop in replacement, very similar bell housing, engine mount positions etc. Hence this is by far the easiest. Any other small enough diesel can be fitted more or less with just a bell housing adapter, but the range of engine rpm may mean you have to change the overall gearing either by overdrive, high ratio box or diffs.

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    Have a look at this Expedition Land Rover site
    It's an American site, but lots of info and ideas and a section on engine conversion for series landies

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    Some years ago we called into a garage in Rolleston, Qld.

    The proprietor had quite a business in rebuilding series L/R's, strip completely, hot dip gal chassis and repower. On c/chassis models he built custom camping backs.
    He was installing Daihatsu 2.8 t/charged engines complete with g/box and I think retaining the L/R transfer box.
    He had 3 or so in part completion, he called them "Frazer Island Specials" due to the anti corrosion precautions.

    Looked a very neat conversion and I imagine would be reliable.
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    What about getting one of the 5 bearing LR diesels from the UK? These were not sold here.
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    My Dad had a Daihatsu diesel powered Series 3 109 HT prior to 1982, he thought very highly of it at the time, though the engine replaced a tired 4 cylinder diesel. He doesn't remember what vehicle it came from...but it wasn't a 'big' engine, maybe ~3 litres, not more. The conversion was done in SYdney so not the 'Fraser Island Special' llandro spoke of.

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    For a cheap reliable, economical, low cost conversion that won't break the bank, as a 200 or 300 TDI engine would when it needs a new turbo or cylinder head, I would look for a rusty Toyota BJ40 LandCruiser and transplant the 3 litre engine gearbox and transfercase complete into your LandRover.Forget trying to retain any of the series 3 transmission.Even the transfercase is strong enough only if you retain standard ratio diffs. You could even swap the better Toyota front and rear diff assemblies in as well for relaxed cruising speed , and which would give you a better turning circle and the option of easy and cheap disc brake conversion.
    I bought a suitable bJ40 donor vehicle for $1300 at a 4wd swap meet a couple of years ago.
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