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  1. 16th June 2011, 05:12 PM #1
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    Defender td5 Black smoke

    Hi guys My td5 defender is having issues, i reciently had the turbo hoses replaced with the silicon type after it started blowing lots of black smoke and not getting anywhere in a hurry.
    I have done about 600km's since and all was great until this morning - black smoke & no power again, the air flow meter was checked last week when the mechanics did the hoses and that tested ok, the air filters are almost new, i am at a loss, the guys who do the work on my car are sugesting it could be the ECU is this likley?

    i can't really afford to be replacing things like this at this stage.

    any help advice would be great here I am at a loss
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  2. 16th June 2011, 06:14 PM #2
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    black smoke

    My 130 has a hose that connects between the intake on the R/H guard and the air filter housing. Don't know if your Fender is configured the same, if so somewhere to look
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  3. 16th June 2011, 06:36 PM #3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Graz View Post
    My 130 has a hose that connects between the intake on the R/H guard and the air filter housing. Don't know if your Fender is configured the same, if so somewhere to look
    I have checked all the hoses all seem to be intact and look ok, all hose clamps are reasonably new, not really sure how else to check.
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  4. 16th June 2011, 07:00 PM #4
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    This probably sounds silly, but silicone hoses, when first put on, sometimes, if not properly secured, can slip off the turbo outlet, producing the symptoms you describe.Possibly, the hose is not fully off, and not obvious. Umm--- your mechanic sounds suss, Bob
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  5. 16th June 2011, 11:49 PM #5
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    Quote Originally Posted by bob10 View Post
    This probably sounds silly, but silicone hoses, when first put on, sometimes, if not properly secured, can slip off the turbo outlet, producing the symptoms you describe.Possibly, the hose is not fully off, and not obvious. Umm--- your mechanic sounds suss, Bob
    Thanks Bob,

    I have had a visual look but can't really notice anything that looks like it could be loose.
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  6. 17th June 2011, 07:40 AM #6
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    Highly unlikely it has anything to do with ECU. The plugs can become oily sometimes but the symptoms are different ,but worth checking these anyhow.
    http://www.aulro.com/afvb/technical-...ess-again.html

    Sice the replacement hoses had everything fine for a while, it is most likely associated with this.
    A restriction in the induction side is often the cause of the symptoms you describe.
    http://www.aulro.com/afvb/discovery-...d5+black+smoke


    cheers
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  7. 17th June 2011, 09:09 AM #7
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    Quote Originally Posted by strangy View Post
    Highly unlikely it has anything to do with ECU. The plugs can become oily sometimes but the symptoms are different ,but worth checking these anyhow.
    Wiring loom harness AGAIN!!!

    Sice the replacement hoses had everything fine for a while, it is most likely associated with this.
    A restriction in the induction side is often the cause of the symptoms you describe.
    http://www.aulro.com/afvb/discovery-...d5+black+smoke


    cheers
    Thanks Strangy, I had the injector harness replace 3 months ago, and have cleaned out the wiring loom, there is no oil in the harness at the moment.
    I agree with the hose issue still, I think i may be getting a little conned here
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  8. 17th June 2011, 10:58 AM #8
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    firstly i am no expert, but i had similar symptoms (black smoke, no power) a few months ago and it turned out to be the egr thingo getting stuck open ... or closed... mechanic cleaned it up and all good... you may not even have your egr, but thought i'd throw it in there anyway...
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  9. 17th June 2011, 03:24 PM #9
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    put a boost gauge on it (or nanocom)
    also check exhuast for blockages
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  10. 17th June 2011, 04:15 PM #10
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    Quote Originally Posted by Benny_IIA View Post
    put a boost gauge on it (or nanocom)
    also check exhuast for blockages
    Thanks the mechanics i have been going to have a nancom i will get it looked at again next week, I am getting weery of taking it back all the time, seams like its a weekly occurance.

    Anybody no a a good landrover mechanic closer to Sawyers Valley (Perth Hills)
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