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19th July 2011, 02:15 AM
#1
Decreasing TD5 compression
G'day all,
I have had several major engine disasters since my engine was rebuilt late last year due to the incompetence of the people who rebuilt the engine.
I have now striped the engine down again and rebuilding it myself this time around. So while is is apart I was thinking of replacing the 2 hole head gasket with a 3 hole gasket to lower the compression a little as I am running a VNT turbo which on average is providing around 19 psi boot.
Any thoughts on lowering the compression due to the increase in boost.
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19th July 2011, 07:25 AM
#2
19psi isn't a reason to lower compression. Double that might be.
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19th July 2011, 06:51 PM
#3
I ran a turbo technics vnt which runs 20psi+. Which I'm yet to transfer into my new td5 90.
Before that I ran the std turbo at 25-26psi with no problems.
D2s run about 19psi anyway with the boost modulator.
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20th July 2011, 12:53 AM
#4
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20th July 2011, 09:24 AM
#5
Diesels are a compression ignition engine. Even though a 3 hole gasket will make a small difference. You dont want to lower your compression.
Dont confuse petrol engine princibles with diesel.
More boost on a diesel engine will mean more air, same fuel (you have the ability to add more fuel with a remap) and a cooler motor. As you have VNT I assume you have an upgraded ECU map.
Head gasket thickness (1,2 or3 holes) is primarily based around piston protrusion, not compression ratio. There is 6 thou difference across the 3 sizes.
If you want your motor to be sorted, you will need to identify and understand what the cause of your real issues are, before you start changing things.
cheers
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21st July 2011, 03:28 PM
#6
Thanks Strangy, yep I must admit I was thinking of the petrol engine theory of the more boost the lower the compression you need.
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26th July 2011, 03:46 PM
#7
From my experience rebuilding the TD5, compressions not what you should be thinking about -
1) the head gasket hole numbers offered, as said earlier, are because of piston protrusion;
2) it is not hard to measure the clearance with just a feeler gauge; and
3) when you assemble the motor the rods are cold - when the piston rods get about 80 degrees hotter then they get maybe 6 thou longer I think, so be careful to measure your clearances well.
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26th July 2011, 06:35 PM
#8
Thanks mate, I realised the protrusion was the reason behind the different sized gaskets but I thought is may also be a way to lower the comp a little if it would be beneficial but it seems it is not.
I have measured the piston protrusion with a DTI prior to the strip down of the bottom end as I placed a bulk order with Turners Engineering in the UK for the items required for the rebuild including a new head gasket, but as I am fitting new OS pistons I hope this clearance does not change to much I already have a 2 hole gasket coming, by rights the new pistons are made by the OE manufacturer so the protrusion should be similar. I will only know for sure once it goes back together & I get the DTI on it again.
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