That sounds like an excellent price. Eastern Wheel Works are asking $135 to flip a disco 1 steel rim (from memory which maybe a bit sus).Quote:
Originally Posted by isuzurover
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That sounds like an excellent price. Eastern Wheel Works are asking $135 to flip a disco 1 steel rim (from memory which maybe a bit sus).Quote:
Originally Posted by isuzurover
if you extend the axle (fit portals, volvo or mog axles) and then off set the rims to bring the center of the rubber back to normal (or within legal limits of normal) thats legal.
to make working out your offset easy
lay the rim flat on the back side of rim/tyre (as in the side that faces inwards) and lay a straight edge over the top edge, measure from the ground to the back of the straight edge
if the back of the disc (where the mounts onto the hub) is exactly in the middle you have 0 offset.
if the back of the disc of the rim is closer to the top you have positive offset, if you plan to move the disc this way you are adding offset.
if the back of the disc is closer to the floor you have negative offset, if you plan to move the disc that way you are subtracting offset.
I think current Race Eng. prices are similar. One thing I should point out is that the $40+GST was not flipped, however offset/track was increased by 50 mm total (25 mm per side) - which is the max legal. (also D1 steel rims).Quote:
Originally Posted by slug_burner
If you extend the axle then the track change needs to reflect the extension or reduction of the axle length.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blknight.aus
not according to my RTA, Ive been looking at some work on foz replacing the axles with something a bit wider,
according to them if I put the 100mm wider axles in I have to use the offset to get the track width back to where it was for the vehicle. this of course roots the steering geometry and wont work because of the clearances to the steering arms (unless I run uber cheese cutters)
of course this is the same RTA that wanted to register my wifes disco as a sports car because it has a turbo.
To answer my own question.This morning I had a quick look under the front of my wet mud caked Hybrid (Yuk). The answer appears to be NO. The distance from the centre of the hub to the outside of the brake caliper is larger than the inside diameter of the 'well' section of a 110 steel rim. I don't have one to measure, but Disco 1 steel rims might clear as they have a shallower well and a larger inside diameter. But Disco 1 rims are very tinny and may not be srong enough to cope with around 100% backspacing.So rather than just the cost of modifying his Defender rims, Serg may have to factor in the cost of all new custom jobs, possibly even based around the larger internal diameter Nissota 16'' split rims to acheive the backspacing required.Quote:
Originally Posted by wagoo
Of course if Sergs plans don't relate to adding portals, then much more than 25mm extra backspacing will see the inside of the rim make contact with the steering arms and trackrod ends.
Wagoo.
As Benny said.I think that people are doing the normal thing,and mixing what is required,ie increased "backspacing" or "negative offset".Quote:
Originally Posted by Benny_IIA
The original question by Serg was left open to misinterpretation by saying "more inboard" .More inboard what?The centre mounting flange more inboard,meaning more Negative offset.Or the inner lip of the rim more inboard,inferring that the "backspacing" needs to be increased.Whenever wheel discussions come up,the same old things seem to apply,and everyone is confused:bangin:
Wayne
That's insane and extremely angry making!:mad:I wonder if some of these dumb stupid QLD DOT regulations are formulated by competent Engineers or lazy useless beaurocrats (Sp?)?Quote:
Originally Posted by Blknight.aus
The considerably heavier series 2B FCs,had axles with the same spring spacing(up front),were 4'' wider and with identical steering linkage layout to Fozzy, so where is the engineering issue here? Chassis strength? I don't think so.They have identical rails,And Fozzy would have shorter spring hangers,so subject to less twisting stress.
Wagoo.
I assume you mean DOT/QT, not RTA (NSW)???Quote:
Originally Posted by Blknight.aus
That was the same advice I had from my (QLD) approved officer (mod plater/engineer for those in other states).
thanks for all the feedback guys,
regardless of what I want to do there is some good info here. But yes I am interested in the idea of wider type axles, like portals and bringing the track width back...not becasue I want to, but becasue DOT require it. Think along the ideas of a Maxidrive portal set up, running absoulte MAX on road of 255/85R16 and having the track width at the DOT max of +50mm over stock. I would prefer to run stock LR rims like 6.5 130's or the 6 inch milatary which I have 5 of both....But would have to look at getting something custom made....maybe the nice 5 spoke rims that Eastern Wheel Works make could fit and be made in the offset I need....I would prefer not to got to a 17 inch rim...
It would be interesting to sit down with DOT and see if it is possible to run these axles legally and what they require????????????