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    ARGH rounded bolt - 300tdi PAS pump pulley

    Well I've been trying for ages to remove the pulley from the power steering pulley on a 300tdi Disco.
    I got 2 different kinds of strap wrench, neither of which worked. Tried to go in by taking the alternator off, just now attempted by taking the viscous hub off and using a long bar to break them.

    I think I've started to round the heads on one of the 3 bolts so I packed up before I did any more damage.

    Does anyone have any ideas about how to get this bastard off?

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    Normally, the bolts for the PSteer pulley come off with just the tension of the belt - but you've past that point.
    Find one of these:



    I found mine at super c wrap some years ago - whether or not they carry them now is unknown.

    Generally the fan goes off first so you have room to move.

    Then, use a six point ( impact type) socket. LR hardware is notorious for rounding using 12 point or even metrinch sockets. ( Especially the bellhousing nuts). You may have to give the ratchet a tap with a hammer to break the hold, but it should work.

    If you do destroy the bolts getting them off - no big deal, they're only M8 x25mm (and some washers)

    When you refit them they don't have to be super tight - and some anti seize might help in the future.

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    Put the belt back on, and you'll have to use a small cold chisel now they are rounded off. They aren't very hard IME and round easily. I use a ground down 10mm single hex 1/2" drive impact socket and one of these http://www.pbtusa.com/pdfs/70865I.pdf
    too. 1 hit not 25 hits
    When replacing the bolts watch the length carefully, as there isn't much room behind the flange for longer bolts.
    JC

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    Quote Originally Posted by langy View Post
    Normally, the bolts for the PSteer pulley come off with just the tension of the belt - but you've past that point.
    Find one of these:



    I found mine at super c wrap some years ago - whether or not they carry them now is unknown. Be careful that the chain sits in the grooves of the pulley during use - don't want to damage it unnecessarily.

    Generally the fan goes off first so you have room to move.

    Then, use a six point ( impact type) socket. LR hardware is notorious for rounding using 12 point or even metrinch sockets. ( Especially the bellhousing nuts). You may have to give the ratchet a tap with a hammer to break the hold, but it should work.

    If you do destroy the bolts getting them off - no big deal, they're only M8 x25mm (and some washers)

    When you refit them they don't have to be super tight - and some anti seize might help in the future.
    Langy, thanks for that.
    I've noted though that my PS pulley isn't grooved, as the smooth side of the belt goes over it. Does that differ from the norm?

    I have a set of IRWIN bolt grip removers that will do the job but will destroy the bolts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomalophicon View Post
    Langy, thanks for that.
    I've noted though that my PS pulley isn't grooved, as the smooth side of the belt goes over it. Does that differ from the norm?

    I have a set of IRWIN bolt grip removers that will do the job but will destroy the bolts.
    I think Langy was meaning the water pump pulley, which is grooved AND can cause the same issue with difficult bolt removals

    JC

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    Oops -

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    Quote Originally Posted by justinc View Post
    Put the belt back on, and you'll have to use a small cold chisel now they are rounded off. They aren't very hard IME and round easily. I use a ground down 10mm single hex 1/2" drive impact socket and one of these http://www.pbtusa.com/pdfs/70865I.pdf
    too. 1 hit not 25 hits
    When replacing the bolts watch the length carefully, as there isn't much room behind the flange for longer bolts.
    JC
    That tool is great. I'll get me one of those.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomalophicon View Post
    That tool is great. I'll get me one of those.
    agreed. I initially bought it to remove and tighten tdi crank bolts, which we do quite a bit, but it gets lots of other tasks too

    worth its weight it has saved me many times, especially with honda engines that rotate anticlockwise and have a rh thread crank bolt so you can't undo them using the starter...

    JC

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    Quote Originally Posted by justinc View Post
    agreed. I initially bought it to remove and tighten tdi crank bolts, which we do quite a bit, but it gets lots of other tasks too

    worth its weight it has saved me many times, especially with honda engines that rotate anticlockwise and have a rh thread crank bolt so you can't undo them using the starter...

    JC
    I'll order one tomorrow. Thanks for the advice.

    Honda engines: I shudder at the thought.

    Tom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomalophicon View Post
    I'll order one tomorrow. Thanks for the advice.

    Honda engines: I shudder at the thought.

    Tom.
    Yes not everyones cup of brew but seriously some of the best quality and high performing engines in factory guise to come out of japan.

    makes them a pleasure to work on.

    JC

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