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    Measures to combat a runaway diesel engine

    So I've been thinking today that I'm going to make a simple modification to my Disco in case of a runaway engine.
    I was thinking a flappy valve to cut off the air intake controlled via the cabin, but thought it might be more reliable to just plumb a CO2 extinguisher into the system.

    Has anyone out there done anything similar who can give me some ideas?

    Or am I being overly cautious (i.e paranoid)

    Tom.

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    Having watched 'Scrapheap Challenge" and seen what happens when a diesel runs away - I can understand wanting a 2nd stop device. However, I once had to run around in my 300tdi with the fuel stop solenoid disconnected. It was sufficient to stall it to a stop with clutch and brakes. It's only a 2.5L after all.

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    Hi Langy, mine's an auto

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    As an experiment, try putting a rag into the air intake. A 300tdi isn't hard to stop. And the fuel cutoff solenoid is pretty foolproof.

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    You would probably need a number of CO2 extinguishers to do the job.

    Probably cheaper to schedule a seal kit for the turbo so it can't get access to an oil source, or even a gate valve on the oil line (not that you'd want to put your hand in there).

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    At 6000rpm and full boost it would suck a rag straight in I'm guessing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies View Post
    You would probably need a number of CO2 extinguishers to do the job.

    Probably cheaper to schedule a seal kit for the turbo so it can't get access to an oil source, or even a gate valve on the oil line (not that you'd want to put your hand in there).
    Definitely a good idea about the seals. But there are other ways for the oil to get into the combustion chamber.

    I don't have one, but would a commercial snorkel generally be air tight enough that if you blocked it at the intake it would choke the engine?

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    My L series diesel shuts down via a electric shut off solenoid between the injector pump and injectors and I assume other diesels do something similar or cut power to the pump.

    Why not just put in another electric fuel shutoff valve before the injector pump that you can manually operate separate to the cars systems. They only cost about $50 and would only require basic wiring to get going.

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    Quote Originally Posted by garrycol View Post
    My L series diesel shuts down via a electric shut off solenoid between the injector pump and injectors and I assume other diesels do something similar or cut power to the pump.

    Why not just put in another electric fuel shutoff valve before the injector pump that you can manually operate separate to the cars systems. They only cost about $50 and would only require basic wiring to get going.

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    Hi Garry,
    I'm more worried about the engine running on sump oil.
    I think the best bet so far would be to restrict the air, but rigging-up a solution that can be employed within, say, 10 seconds of the runaway is the problem

    Tom.

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    cutting off the fuel wont help...

    to my understanding a runaway diesel occurs when the engine stats burning oil from somewhere.

    eg. leaky turbo or oil overfill

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