Thread: Making a sump

Are the wings you're talking about cooling fins or something else? Sorry I don't know the isuzu engine.

Its all good...im Sorry that I do not have any pics but there is some here somewhere I'm just hopeless with getting photos on here otherwise I would have photos of my county on here um as for the sump it has a bulge on the passenger side that makes the capacity more than a standard sump this is what we refer to as a "winged" sump ...
It takes up a lot more room in my opinion and with my oil change intervals I don't think it's a concern by removing it.
Other ideas was dry sump which will probably be to costly or sourcing the dual filter arrangement used on the trucks which will then add some more volume back into the system or an external oil cooler system but I'm not sure yet !

Just buy a wingless sump

Where are the pictures? To many questions, not enough pictures

Originally Posted by c.h.i.e.f

Its all good...im Sorry that I do not have any pics but there is some here somewhere I'm just hopeless with getting photos on here otherwise I would have photos of my county on here um as for the sump it has a bulge on the passenger side that makes the capacity more than a standard sump this is what we refer to as a "winged" sump ...
It takes up a lot more room in my opinion and with my oil change intervals I don't think it's a concern by removing it.
Other ideas was dry sump which will probably be to costly or sourcing the dual filter arrangement used on the trucks which will then add some more volume back into the system or an external oil cooler system but I'm not sure yet !

Its only a larger capacity if you fill it to the same level as a wingless sump.
The wingless sump on the truck engines run a higher oil level. There's pics on here somewhere of the difference.
I cut the wing off mine (only because I couldn't easily get hold of a wingless sump at the time), then filled with the correct amount of oil and re-marked the dipstick. Piccy's in my conversion thread.

You wont gain any capacity by using the twin filter setup, as the combined volume of both filters would be pretty close to the large original filter.

$500 for a sump - you're joking right ??? Under $150 from a wrecker or you're being ripped I reckon....

Steve

There some good points I usually put more oil in than recommended anyhow so Mmmm yeah it was a crap price so that's why I left it as for second hand one I cannot find anything for the Isuzu anywhere really hence that's why I started thinking about making one as I get alloy and stainless for free and welding and bolts for free.. Would you be able to post up your thread please as yours was the one I was referring to previously

Originally Posted by tomalophicon

Are the wings you're talking about cooling fins or something else? Sorry I don't know the isuzu engine.

The Isuzu engine fitted to the Landrover 110 has a special (compared to the Isuzu truck) sump that has a somewhat shallower deepest part but this is compensated for by a sideways extension about 70-80mm to the left beyond the crankcase. The reason for this is not clear, probably to provide extra clearance under the sump, but the sump is pretty much protected by the axle in front and the cross member under the gearbox that is lower anyway.

I have wondered whether it is simply the sump that came with the industrial version of the engine, being fitted to reduce the overall height of the engine.

John

The drawbacks to it are that it makes access to the starter rather difficult, and makes it necessary to run the exhaust system outside the chassis rail.

John

Have you tried sourcing a sump from an Isuzu 4BE1 engine instead ? Some of the parts looked interchangeable when I owned one.