Thread: Which driving lights should I buy for my dad? Off road use. Lightforce, Hella, etc?

So Tombie,

How do fyrlyt's compare to halogen Rallye 4000s (available for half the price)???
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And what were they thinking with the stupid text-speak name...

Originally Posted by Tombie

But I'm surprised... IPF are not a premium grade light... I would have thought the 4000's would have impressed you better...

Which IPFs are you running? And what bulb?

Lightforce 170, IIRC Osram 100w bi-pin
Hella Rallye 4000 Spot & spread, Philips H1 12v100w
IPF 900XS Spot & spread, Osram H9 12v65w

Why do you say the IPF's arent a "premium" grade light?

Originally Posted by Sprint

Lightforce 170, IIRC Osram 100w bi-pin
Hella Rallye 4000 Spot & spread, Philips H1 12v100w
IPF 900XS Spot & spread, Osram H9 12v65w

Why do you say the IPF's arent a "premium" grade light?

Poor optics, bad mounting, heavy....

Poor finish on a lot of their product

Lots of dust into them


BUT Great bulb - They are a IR bulb, which super heats the element to provide more lumen per watt.

Originally Posted by isuzurover

So Tombie,

How do fyrlyt's compare to halogen Rallye 4000s (available for half the price)???
Susquehanna MotorSports - Auto Performance Product

And what were they thinking with the stupid text-speak name...

Short story: The name was a forced - Firelight and most derivatives have already been registered and Tm'd - Try finding something that hasn't nowadays.

Not much different to KC Hilite


Comparison to Hella 4000s:

The Hella is a good solid light, but not sealed, so dust and water get in.
Construction is ok.
Optics are not as efficient
Fixed type
Glass (Breakable) lense
100w bulb - output is lower in lumen / watt as well (will confirm actual numbers for you)
Spot is just that a spot
Spread is spread

Fyrlyt is:
Highly efficient reflector
Spread or 'spot' - And this is where Fyrlyt differ - Spot is a larger 'spot' providing more usable light light where its needed.
The spread is a wall of light
Quick change bulb holder
Hard coated lense and reflector - wont go grey
Fully rebuildable
Light output far greater
Lighter and stronger - We parked a BJ40 on top of a Fyrlyt
No covers to reduce light output - if you dont cover a Hella the glass is prone to cracking from stones - reduces output to 83%
Sealed - No dust or water ingress

I've had the opportunity to have and use:
IPF 900 - with HIR bulbs
Hella 4000
LF XGT
LF HID 240 50w
LF 170
LF 170 HID
LF 140
KC Hilite
Hella Bull Spots
FYRLYTs
30" Rigid Light Bar (LED)

All the lights above are good units, and most would be happy with any of them (except the LF 140 - bit light on for Driving lights more an infill).

But nothing holds a candle to the FYRLYTs...

The Light bar is a world of its own in how they perform and their purpose.

cheers

Originally Posted by landygrl

Hi Everyone



I can probably spend up to $1000 (but would be interested in hearing about suggestions above this as well, if they're outstanding lights, as I might be able to get a few other family members to contribute).

Back to the issue at hand....

I have a vacancy coming up for a new daughter, just in time for Fathers Day...

Just let me get rid of a couple of the current ones, and you can spend a grand on me....

Originally Posted by goingbush

If your old man is getting on a bit & like me had been avoiding driving at night because the old eyes are not what they used to be a LED light bar might be an option that dosent break the bank.

Not to discount the previous suggestions at all, but I really suffer from eyestrain at night & since I got the LED light bar I actually look forward to night driving now (until I hit my next roo i suppose)

which reminds me, heres a video with the light bar on, the yellow light blur in the middle distance is my standard H4 high beam 'spread'

Kangaroo vs Landrover, Blackvue dashcam - YouTube

The light is not over the top but just nice clear spread to the sides & about 100m in front, (Old farts like me cant see much detail past that in daylight so I dont see much point getting lights that go further at night)

I bought it from a random ebay seller & liked it so much that I sent him photos that he has used on his ebay listing. I have seen these exact light bars for more than double the price.

24"120W Alloy LED light bar 4X4 4WD Driving/offroad light Jeep Boat Truck 12V24V | eBay
theres another link to one of my youtube video in his ebay listing comparing low /high then LED light bar on a wet road in semi suburbia

Have also seen photos of a Truck parked on top of this light on another forum so they really are tough too.


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Originally Posted by cal415

Nice work, i am interested in knowing what globe life with them would be and total current draw for a pair if you found that out?

Hope my Daughters are as generous as you when they grow up!

Hi Cal415

I was told that the globe life is 300 hours and that replacement bulbs can be purchased for around $12. I believe this is a lot less that what is offered by HIDs (2000 hours?). Assuming he needs to replace the globe 7 times in the same period that a HID would run, it would cost about $84; this is still a lot cheaper than the difference in price between a HID and fyrlyt. The globe is apparently also very easy to change yourself. If I buy the fyrlyts, I might buy a few spare bulbs for him to pop in his glove box (or wherever he keeps that sort of stuff).

From my own research, I believe the total current draw for the pair would be 25 amp, aka. 300w (as they're 150w bulbs) equals 25 amp draw at 12v. This is also higher than HIDs.

All that said, overall, looking at quality of product, quality/ output of light, ability to do own maintenance, and cost, I think the fyrlyt is still my first choice. I might suggest he purchase a LED bar in the future though, like goingbush (ps. I love the video with the roos!), to work alongside the fyrlyts.

Originally Posted by Basil135

Back to the issue at hand....

I have a vacancy coming up for a new daughter, just in time for Fathers Day...

Just let me get rid of a couple of the current ones, and you can spend a grand on me....

Hahaha

I think having one dad is expensive enough He definitely won't be getting this every year (lucky for him it is also a milestone birthday as well).

Most of you are probably aware, although, as I could have potentially tripped up on this, I thought it best to make those considering buying fyrlyts aware. Previously you could only buy the following two models

FYRLYT 12V 100W Xenophot 2800 Lumen Light
FYRLYT 24V 150W Xenophot 5000 Lumen Light

However, as per the fyrlyt website, you can now also buy

FYRLYT 12V 150W Xenophot 5000 Lumen Light

Some companies are still selling the 100W light online which is definitely inferior in regard to lumens. Something to keep in mind