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    Lightbulb Which driving lights should I buy for my dad? Off road use. Lightforce, Hella, etc?

    Hi Everyone

    I'm new to this forum, so hopefully this doesn't repeat other threads too much; if there is somewhere else I should look, feel free to point it out.

    I'm looking to buy some new driving lights for my dad for a combined fathers day/ birthday present. I will need to buy them and have them delivered in the next week and a half. I'm not catching up with him until the evening of the 7th Sept.. a week after fathers day and a week before his birthday.

    There are loads of lights out there and after doing some research I'm still a bit undecided on which way to go as I am definitely not an expert. So.. any advice you could all share would be fab!!

    The requirements:

    I'm pretty sure that he has a 1995 land rover discovery. I think it just has the factory bull bar. I can get my mum to do some measurements of this if needed. He currently has no lights (apart from factory standard) on the car. He has a roof rack.

    He mainly uses the car for off road trips. He has said in the past that if he were to buy driving lights that he would probably prefer a wide beam (although I don't think he's done much research either..). But I expect one spot would also be good.. for spotting wild life in the distance.

    He does a lot of water crossings. So they need to be waterproof!!

    He mainly drives in bushland that is quite dense. He also does longer trips on main roads (often winding).

    I can probably spend up to $1000 (but would be interested in hearing about suggestions above this as well, if they're outstanding lights, as I might be able to get a few other family members to contribute).


    Thoughts so far:

    I really like the look of the Lightforce brand lights as they have the interchangeable lens covers and they seem to be very waterproof. Leaning toward the XGT as he could upgrade them to HID himself (?) in the future if he wants.

    HID lights look awesome, but I think they might be too expensive. Are they?

    I originally thought the Hella 4000 would be great, although from reading multiple forums and reviews I have been led to believe that they are not great with water.

    What do you all think of these and other brands? What do you have?

    I expect purchasing online would be cheaper.. if I can get them delivered sooner rather than later. Does anyone have any suggestions on the best place to buy? Is ebay ok? Or should I go through a specialist retailer?


    Sorry for such a long first post!

    I look forward to your thoughts

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    I've just spoken with mum and it is definitely a 95 discovery

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    I used to have a Hella Rallye 2000 100W spread beam and a Hella Rallye 2000 100W pencil beam.
    Awesome combination and very good quality.
    They are not cheap

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    I have had several pairs of lightforce lights as well as others, One thing to be aware of with the XGT's is they are VERY large and may not fit his bullbar, if this is the case maybe some Genesis would do(210mm vs 240mm and slimmer body), i would steer clear of the 140's 170's and 240blitz as they lense can be unscrewed and stolen very easily - i have had all of them (still have most of them) at some stage.

    I currently run a set of HID genesis 65w on my 130 and they are awesome, in the past i have had after market converted HID XGT's and they done compare to the genuine HIDs. i got my Genesis for under the 1k mark but i got a good price, im guessing for genuine HID genesis you would be up for around 1100 and for genuine XGT HIDs even more.

    Another option might be some LED spotties or a light bar, i have been looking at the great whites, they look awesome and work great but they are pricey!

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    Check out the IPF 900XS. I can't fault them. I have a set, and they are water and mud proof. I have tested this on numerous occasions.

    I've just bought a HID conversion kit for mine too, although even with the regular halogen bulbs, they are great lights.

    Can't comment on the Lightforce's as I've never had them, but everyone who owns them raves about them.

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    The Hella lights are a good brand - I have used either Rallye 4000's or Predators for years on many different vehicles (including a Discovery siimilar model to your father's) and still have a set of Predators on my current vehicle. The Predator is Hella's HID version of the Rallye 4000. If you are looking at Hella's, only look at the Rallye 4000 or Predator (or perhaps the new LED driving lights), as these models all have a far superior mounting system to the older Hella models (such as Rallye 2000) and this is essential for off roading. Predators are ridiculously expensive though - you can buy many similar lights for way less dollars.

    However, what you have read about Hella's performance in water is correct. If your father does a lot of water crossings, I would probably steer clear of the Hellas for this reason. While I can't say that I've ever had a problem with any Hella lights - I do not do a lot of water crossings either (pretty hard to find one where I live) - but I have seen water in my Hella lights on many occasions over the years - and that's just from washing with a pressure washer or driving in heavy rain.

    Here's another thought - you said that your father's car has a roofrack. Have a look at a decent quality LED light bar which can be mounted on the front of the roofrack (or you can get them to mount on the bulbar if you get the right length). Particularly for off road work, the LED bars provide better lighting than most conventional driving lights, with very good "spread" of light and a very clean "white" light. They will not give the range of a good driving light though, with a decent LED bar illuminating for up to about 300 metres from the front of the vehicle. The LED bars also use significantly less power than any conventional driving light, HID or Halogen.

    You can buy a very good LED light bar for $1000.

    Google LED Light Bar and you'll see plenty of information and choices. If you're interested, just look for a supplier with a decent reputation (keep away from the Chinese el-cheapo's sold on e-bay). I've just purchased one and it's bloody brilliant on my Doscovery. We also use them a lot at work on front end loaders, service trucks, water trucks etc and I've seen them recently on haul trucks as well. Another advantage is that they will outlast anything else on the market (don't need globes changed etc) by many years.

    Good luck ..................
    Cheers .........

    BMKAL


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    There wer these light mentioned a few threads ago:

    FYRLYT driving lights/truck/4wd/offroad/led/hid/halogen/home/en

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    As Bee Utey has stated...

    If you want top quality, fantastic performance (better than 70W HID) and exceptional quality go with FYRLYTS...

    Retail around $600.00 a pair and more usable light output than anything out there.

    5000 Lumen output each, fully serviceable, fully sealed (Waterproof / dust proof)



    Being a 203mm diameter light they also fit better onto most vehicles over larger units.
    Last edited by Tombie; 12th November 2015 at 02:16 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bee utey View Post
    There wer these light mentioned a few threads ago:

    FYRLYT driving lights/truck/4wd/offroad/led/hid/halogen/home/en
    Quote Originally Posted by Tombie View Post
    As Bee Utey has stated...

    If you want top quality, fantastic performance (better than 70W HID) and exceptional quality go with FYRLYTS...

    Retail around $600.00 a pair and more usable light output than anything out there.

    5000 Lumen output each, fully serviceable, fully sealed (Waterproof / dust proof)



    Being a 203mm diameter light they also fit better onto most vehicles over larger units.
    And these lights have the huge advantage that you can instantly change them from "Spot" to "Spread" configuration simply by twisting the globe holder on the back of the housing.

    If I didn't already have lights on my Disco, these are definitely what I'd be fitting.
    Cheers .........

    BMKAL


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    I have had teh Hella Rallye 2000's one pencil and one spread. I have currently got Lightforce XGT's.

    Lightforces are definately the better light, but you would ned to makje sure they fit the bar as they are a BIG light.

    The only reason I changed from the Hella's was due to the vehicle being written off in a front end collision which destroyed the lights.

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