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    Impartial Advice required - carb issues

    The Rangie (1981 3.5ltr twin Stromberg with LPG) broke down the other week with fuel pouring from the DS carb. The mechanics called back last week to let me know the news. Other than the LPG tank being out of date and needing re-testing $450-550, the carbs require a full rebuild which will cost approx $1000......

    A month or so ago I bought an 3.9 EFI 14CUX kit so that I could convert at some point which might open up the area for getting servicing etc. done around the place.

    I also have a Holly (don't know what type) sitting on spares evhile at home.

    The vehicle is structurally sound (for a 30 year old vehicle), i.e. no rust (that I know of anyway) but it does need a bit of work to get it a bit more "comfortable", doors seals, hinges, interior work, etc. The LT95 will need some work in the next couple of years, if not sooner and the engine has low compression in at least one cylinder. So there's a bit more money to be spent.

    It is my daily driver - approx. 130kms per day, so I spend some time in it, it needs to be reliable and I need to get it back on the road ASAP. I'll admit am attached to this vehicle even though it's not the most comfortable to drive (think I'm getting even more deaf!!) but even this cost has rattled me and causing me to consider my options. I don't want to get rid of it - I've spent far too much to sell if for a grand, but I really don't see pouring $1000 into carbs is spending the money in the right area. I'd prefer to spend it on making the car "better", i.e. installing the EFI, sourcing other carbs, replacing the whole motor, getting another vehicle but that just brings other areas of doubt, e.g. installation problems, existing unknown issues, etc.

    Money is currently an issue for us, so the question is, for that sort of money, what real options do I have? I'm hoping some of you might have been in similar predicament, so I'd be interested in hearing the outcomes too.

    Thanks

    Stu
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    Stu

    I converted my '85 RRc from carbs to EFI and haven't looked back.

    The mixer system for the LPG is easier, but you need the complete system including ECU for the conversion. You will also find that you need to replace the fuel tank with a full flow submerged pump type. You may also need to change your dissy for an electronic advance model.

    The 3.9 chip will need to be re-mapped for the 3.5 and LPG - I use a Motec M48 ECU which is programmable from my laptop on the move and has options for two maps with automatic change over.

    With the 14CUX you will need a compromise timing for petrol/LPG or an add-on timing advance module to switch between fuels.

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    I think you need to get alternative pricing for both the tank testing and carb rebuild.

    The tank in my 101 cost $180 a few years back and the carb kits are relatively cheap and can be installed your self as long as you note needle settings etc when pulling apart. The wear bits are the diaphram and when on gas the needles wear due lack of lubrication. With a bit of reading ("google" is your friend) you could do the work yourself to get it running and then send it in for a proper tune to finalise adjustments - alternatively paying someone should be far less than $1000.

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    Re: Impartial Advice required - carb issues

    Yep, rebuild kits are fairly cheap, and can be found on ebay.

    I had mine done in Adelaide a few years ago, and set me back less than $400.

    Needles are the hardest bit to find.

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    ................or you could try and find an Edlebrock manifold and use the Holly with appropriate jets. Re jetting is reasonably easy these days on a dyno, with an oxy sensor up its bum. Two barrel Holy is OK, 4 is really good. Set economy on the first two and "go to orbit" when the other two kick in

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    CD175's as per OEM, rebuild kits are $75ish from MR and take me about 4 hours to get fitted and running.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StuRR80 View Post
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    LPG tank $450-550,
    carbs approx $1000
    Forget the Holly


    Same as garrycol suggestion ... Just Fleebay a carb kit and do it yourself .... or take Dave's advise


    alternatively


    Either install the 14CUX kit or go Lotz-A-Landies path

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    goodness me, i wish i could get away with 1k for carb overhauls

    as dave says, they are an easy and simple carb to rebuild, and imo the best carb for a 3.5.


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    Impartial Advice required - carb issues

    Thanks for all your advice guys I'll give them a buzz in the morning to see if something got lost in translation between them saying $1000, me dropping the phone and then being stunned and hearing blah, blah, blah....!!! If there's anything more to it, then I'll let you know.

    Re the EFI, they said 10-12 hours roughly but would need an auto elec to plumb in the harness and a new cam if I had everything else but they'd rather not do it, is the impression I got. How different are the cams? Rather, I'm assuming or can it be mapped around?
    Cheers,
    Stu

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    if its not sorted you can slowly get by by bypassing the fuel lines on the leaking carb and running on one.

    you get the kits and If I can make the time I'll teach you how to do your carbs.
    Dave

    "In a Landrover the other vehicle is your crumple zone."

    For spelling call Rogets, for mechanicing call me.

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