Salisbury diff housing failures

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Originally Posted by Jitterbug

To add to the pictures:

I cracked the front housing on my D1 whilst on a trip from the UK to mongolia and middle east. I am not sure if it had been damaged previously but it 'went' whist driving on a main road in Siberia. Nicely sealed for the most part then 100m stretch that looked as though it had been subject to carpet bombing.
We limped about 50km to the next truck stop the piggy-backed a ride to the closest town. Not the easiest when we spoke about 2 words of Russian between us!

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Wrong thread. This is Sals axles.
JDNSW had the front axle thread:D

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Originally Posted by isuzurover

SIII and 110 sals tubes seem to all be ~5.8 mm wall from my measurements.
IRC someone posting that 130 axle tubes are 8 mm wall???
Dana 60 axles are 0.315 - 0.500" wall (8 - 13 mm)

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Does anyone have more info on the 8mm tubed axles?

Were they standard on all 130s or just for particular years? Were they an option on any other vehicles? Is there any external way to identify them without stripping to measure the internal diameter?

Sorry to revive yet another old thread, I am still trying to get my head around all the options before I start spending money.

Found something that might answer part of my question here Drum brake 110 salisbury disc brake conversion - Land Rover Technical Archive - LR4x4 - The Land Rover Forum

"There are two types of salisbury ones available. The 21S and 24S (this is the code that the axle serial number of the axle starts with… stamped on the back of the LH side of the tubing) 21S is “standard” and 24S is the Heavy Duty version. I think it’s some of the casing internals that are beefier, as the outside looks the same."

zkdaz,

I reckon those serial numbers will identify the heavy duty Salisbury axle.

For TD5 cab chassis Defenders, Land Rover state the following maximum weights on the rear axles:

Standard 110 - 1850 kg
Heavy Duty 110 - 2200 kg
130 Cab - 2200 kg
130 Double Cab - 2200 kg

So I would guess a 110 with the heavy duty option would have the same rear axle as the 130's.

My early ('93) 130 axle is a 24S and has the thicker tubes.

Steve

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Originally Posted by zkdaz

... Is there any external way to identify them without stripping to measure the internal diameter?
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Aside from axle loading, it would be a 5-minute job to unscrew the breather and measure the wall thickness (also a good chance to check the breather isn't blocked).

After a trouble free run through the Simpson,Cape York,Gulf,NTwith the TD5 purring along. The salisbury diff housing failed on the Gibb river road.Did not think the conditions were too bad compared to what we had previously experienced.Did contemplate dropping tyre pressures but then the road always seemed to come good.Speed was 75/80ks and the ride was ok.Polyairs in Lovell HD springs were at 8psi.Fair bit of weight with long range tanks,dinghy and rack.

I was on the Gibb earlier this year and saw nothing but carnage,you aren't alone. Pat

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Originally Posted by eddy

After a trouble free run through the Simpson,Cape York,Gulf,NTwith the TD5 purring along. The salisbury diff housing failed on the Gibb river road.Did not think the conditions were too bad compared to what we had previously experienced.Did contemplate dropping tyre pressures but then the road always seemed to come good.Speed was 75/80ks and the ride was ok.Polyairs in Lovell HD springs were at 8psi.Fair bit of weight with long range tanks,dinghy and rack.

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wow, that is not good at all :(

what tyre pressures where you running?
any idea of your lovell spring rate?

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Originally Posted by eddy

After a trouble free run through the Simpson,Cape York,Gulf,NTwith the TD5 purring along. The salisbury diff housing failed on the Gibb river road.Did not think the conditions were too bad compared to what we had previously experienced.Did contemplate dropping tyre pressures but then the road always seemed to come good.Speed was 75/80ks and the ride was ok.Polyairs in Lovell HD springs were at 8psi.Fair bit of weight with long range tanks,dinghy and rack.

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Holy crap, I thought I was stupid for packing my welding gear, now I'm glad I did.

had you been checking underneath for telltale oil weep around axle tubes or did it just go without warning ??