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    300 TDi inlet air pressure test

    Pressure reading of 300 Tdi air inlet system.


    Project. To measure the pressure range across the air inlet system on a Land Rover Discovery 1 from snorkel inlet to turbo inlet.


    Test vehicle. 1997 Land Rover Discovery 300 Tdi with VNT turbo and Safari snorkel.


    Test equipment. Digital manometer ( about $30 ebay ), 2.0 M 3mm tubing, Pope or similar 4mm threaded both ends joiner, paper and biro.


    Reason. To find out by how much the pressure increased across the inlet system, where the greatest increases were so as to see what actions could be taken to eliminate the restrictions. Less restrictions mean increased air flow and more air into the engine which coupled with more fuel would mean more power.


    Points measured.

    1. Off the 90 bend at the inlet of the snorkel.
    2. At the inlet to the air box.
    3. In the inlet side of the air box, prior to the filter.
    4. In the outlet side of the air box after the filter.
    5. On the outlet hose from the air box about 50mm along.
    6. On the outlet hose just prior to the inlet of the turbo ( not read at this stage )



    All measurements were taken in 3rd gear (auto) at 3,000 rpm up a small incline so the engine was under some load.




    Reading Point
    Reading / inH2O
    Difference
    Percentage


    1
    Snorkel inlet
    1.2










    7.5
    50
    2
    Air box inlet
    8.7










    0.7
    4.6
    3
    Prior to filter
    9.4










    2.2
    14.7
    4
    After filter
    11.6










    2.3
    15.3
    5
    Exit of filter
    13.9










    2.3 estimated
    15.3
    6
    Inlet to turbo
    16.2 estimated






    Total
    16.2
    15




    As you can see from this the biggest restriction is the snorkel. Part of this is the size of the snorkel and part is the fact that the snorkel has three 90 bends at the engine end. The first turns through the guard into the engine bay, the second turns before the ABS system and the third around the ABS and into the air box.
    The air filter on it's own does not cause a large restriction ( well used filter tested ). The air box total has a larger restriction.


    Improvements.
    The snorkel could be removed but this negates the purpose of it being there so is not an option. A purpose built snorkel could be made that is of larger diameter (one of the tubular types) and goes further forward down the guard then turns directly into the air filter. This would eliminate two 90 bends in the test vehicle.


    Another option would be to fit a tubular style air box with the inlet end over the outside of the filter. The outlet would be the other end from the centre of the filter, a K&N tubular or tapered style filter could be used. From the readings above the outlet from the filter is an issue more than the inlet.


    Seeing that a good standard car has a total reading of 10 inH2O and a bad one 20 inH2O, the disco with snorkel is not too bad.


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    Sorry the formatting was impossible to read, I have changed it.

    I assume you are measuring DeltaP (differential pressure)?

    Quote Originally Posted by ackie View Post
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    All measurements were taken in 3rd gear (auto) at 3,000 rpm up a small incline so the engine was under some load.

    [All measurements in inches of H20]




    Snorkel inlet
    1.2

    Air box inlet
    8.7

    Prior to filter
    9.4

    After filter
    11.6

    Exit of filter
    13.9

    Inlet to turbo
    16.2 estimated

    And in some more sensible units:
    pos inH2O psi mbar
    1 1.2 0.043 3
    2 8.7 0.314 21.7
    3 9.4 0.340 23.4
    4 11.6 0.419 28.9
    5 13.9 0.502 34.6
    6 16.2 0.585 40.4



    Quote Originally Posted by ackie View Post
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    Another option would be to fit a tubular style air box with the inlet end over the outside of the filter. The outlet would be the other end from the centre of the filter, a K&N tubular or tapered style filter could be used. From the readings above the outlet from the filter is an issue more than the inlet.

    ...
    DO NOT do this if you want your engine to last. See my previous threads on this, which I think are in the good oil section somewhere.

    As to inserting a table, I think the only way is to upload it as an image file.

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    Can anyone tell me how to insert a table please and I will attempt to make a readable document.

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    I have given up on the table, here is another option, readings in inH2O, if this does not work I will give up.

    1. Snorkel inlet-1.2
    2. Airbox in-8.7
    3. Before filter-9.4
    4. After filter-11.6
    5. Airbox out-13.9
    6. Turbo in-16.2 estimate

    The difference between points.

    1&2 - 7.5 or 50%
    2&3 - 0.7 or 4.6%
    3&4 - 2.2 or 14.7%
    4&5 - 2.3 or 15.3%
    5&6 - 2.3 est or 15.3%

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    Pretty certain there is no way to insert a table. Picture of a table is the answer.
    - Justin

    '95 Disco 300TDI - sold
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    Do you know what size the Safari Snorkel is?
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    Been away, size is about 3" although not round, shape and size changes as it travels down the truck. I thought they were all fairly standard

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